Herreshoff #186408es Secret

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Particulars

Name: Secret
Type: Catboat
Designed by: Stone, Dexter Sheldon
Launch: 1864
Construction: Wood
LOA: 21' 10" (6.65m)
LWL: 21' 3" (6.48m)
Beam: 8' 8" (2.64m)
Draft: 1' 8" (0.51m)
Rig: Cat
Built for: N/A [E. F. Linton owner in 1890]
Last reported: 1896 (aged 32)

Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.


Model

Model #1612Model number: 1612
Model location: H.M.M. Workshop North Wall Right

Vessels from this model:
1 built, modeled by Stone, Dexter Sheldon
#186408es Secret (1864)

Original text on model:
"SECRET 1864" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)

Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.


Documents

Nathanael G. Herreshoff

"Secret [#186408es]: 22ft Length on deck. 22ft 5in Length on water. 8ft 4in Breadth extreme. 2ft 3in Depth. 2 3/4in Deadrise per foot. 5ft 6in Width of stern. 9 1/2in Sheer. 2ft 8 1/2in Freeboard [at] bow. 1ft 7in Freeboard [at] stern. 1ft 1in Freeboard [at] lowest place. No bowsprit. 26ft 6in Mainsail foot. 19ft Mainsail hoist. 12ft 6in Mainsail head. 31ft 6in Mainsail leech. 409sqft Mainsail area. #VALUE! 17ft Gafftopsail foot. 20ft Gafftopsail luff. 22ft Gafftopsail leech. 160sqft Gafftopsail area. No jibtopsail." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. and/or other Herreshoff family members. Handwritten table listing early Herreshoff-built boats and their dimensions up to 1870. No date (1870 or later). Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum, MRDE03.)

Other Contemporary Text Source(s)

"In the regatta at Stonington, on the 'Fourth,' [July 4, 1870] the Orion [#186903es], owned by Mr Thayer, of New York, and built by Mr John B Herreshoff, of this town, was the successful competitor gaining the prize of one hundred dollars. ... The first prize to centre-board boats in the first class, at the regatta in Boston on the 4th inst. [July 4, 1870], was given to the Sadie [#186704es], late ot this town. The first prize to keel boats was won by the Psyche [#186605es]. The first prize in the second class was given to the Violet [#186606es], the second to the Kelpie [#186403es], centre-boards. The first prize in the third class was given to the Posey [#186603es ex-Fannie I], the second to the Secret [#186408es], centre-boards. Those boots were all built by Mr. John B. Herreshoff, at his yard and shops in this town. ... At the regatta of the Eastern Yacht Club, of Marblehead, Mass., Tuesday [July 12, 1870], the Sadie [#186704es], of Boston, was the winning boat. Coming was second. The time of the Sadie was four hours and twenty-five minutes, and the Coming four hours thirty minutes and twenty-five seconds. Dexter Stone's Psyche [#186605es], another Herreshoff boat, although not in the race, came in next to the winner." (Source: Anon. "Local Tintypes." Bristol Phoenix, July 16, 1870, p. 2.)

"[Secret (Sail, C. B.) owned by E. F. Linton, Port: Canarsie; LOA 22.6ft; LWL 22.6ft; Beam 11ft; Draft 1.8ft; designed by J. B. Herreshoff and built by Herreshoff Mfg. Co. in 1872.]" (Source: Stebbins 1888 Yachtsmen's Souvenir, p. 54.)

Archival Documents

"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink and pencil) table providing what amounts to be the earliest Herreshoff construction record with detailed dimensional data (Name, Owner, Length on deck, Length on water, Breadth extreme, Depth, Deadrise per foot, Width of stern, Sheer, Freeboard at bow, stern and lowest place, Centreboard length, Centreboard from woodends, Centre of mast from woodends, Bowsprit out board, Mainsail foot, hoist, head, leech, and area, Foresail foot, hoist, head, leech, and area, Jib foot, hoist, leech, and area, Gafftopsail foot, luff, leech, and area, Fore-gafftopsail foot, luff, leech, and area, Jibtopsail foot, hoist, leech, and area and Notes ) for Julia [#185602es], Sprite [#186001es], Kelpie 1st [#186301es], Magic [#186404es], Toad [#186411es], Prudence [#186406es], Patience [#186405es], Hope [#186402es], Faith [#186401es], Qui Vive [#186407es], Kelpie 2nd [#186403es], Teazer [#186410es], Secret [#186408es], Fish Boats [#186505es, #186506es, #186507es, #186508es, #186509es, #186510es, #186511es, #186512es], Fish Boats [#186513es, #186514es, #186515es, #186516es, #186517es, #186518es], Fanchon [#186501es], Angie [#186503es], Haidee [#186604es], Ariel [#186601es], Psyche [#186605es], Fannie 1st [#186603es], Violet [#186606es], Fish Boats [#186607es, #186608es], Fish Boats [#186609es, #186610es, #186611es, #186612es, #186613es, #186614es], Lively Whale [later Daisy ???] [#186707es ???], Fannie 2nd [#186702es], Hartford [later Polly ???] [#186703es ???], Sadie [#186704es], Clytie [#186701es], Waterfall [N/A], Bristol [#186801es], Ione [#187003es], Poppasquash [#186502es], Etta [N/A], Oysterboats [#186710es, #186711es], Spring Green [#186709es], Pellican [#186708es], Henrietta [N/A], Meteor [N/A], Fatter[?] [N/A], Annie Moies [#1p], Charlotte [#186803es], Annie [#186905es], Hildegard [#186808es], Thetis [#186705es], Clio [#187101es], Fleetwing [N/A], White Straw[?] [N/A], [Mignone] [#186904es], Fish Boats [square stern, 1868] [N/A], Sadie [#N/A (dupl. listing)], Fannie [N/A], Bunsby [#186802es], Orion [#186903es], Breeze [N/A], Nimbus [#186805es], Alice [crossed out, this MIGHT be Bessie] [#187001es], Viking [#187008es], [Ianthe] [#187002es], [Surf] [#187007es], [Georgie Miller] [#187011es], and [Pink] [#187010es]. Undated, the latest vessel on the list was built in 1870." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (?) (creator) or other Herreshoff family members (?) (creator). Construction Record. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_01410. Folder [no #]. No date (ca 1870).)


Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #186408es Secret even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.

Further Reading
  • Grayson, Stan. Herreshoff Catboats. The Roots of a Boatbuilding Dynasty." Wooden Boat #289, November/December 2022, p. 58-67. (1,855 kB)
    Document is copyrighted: Yes. Detailed, well-written story about Herreshoff catboats, from early boats such as Sprite and the four Julias which were all built before the founding off the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company to the numerous small catboats like Dandelion and Bluebell, many of which were delivered to Boston yachtsmen and most of which were also built before the founding of HMCo to the later, often very extreme and rule-beating catboats such as Wanda. With some minor errors, not all Julias were keelboats, Dexter Stone was from Philadelphia and not just a local yachtsman, Peri was not built for W. Starling Burgess, and Bluebell was built for Ed. Burgess with no proof that this was Edward Burgess.

Images

Registers

1874 Olsen's American Yacht List (#323)
Name: Secret
Owner: J. Binney; Club(s): 4 [Boston YC]; Port: Weymouth
Type & Rig C. B. Sloop
LOA 21-10; LWL 21-3; Extr. Beam 8-8; Draught 1-8
Note: Draft with CB 3-8ft

1875 Manning's Yachting Annual (#26)
Name: Secret
Owner: J. Binney
Type & Rig Cat, Open
LOA 21.10; LWL 21.3; Extr. Beam 8.8; Draught 1.8
Builder 66 [J. B. Herreshoff]
Note: Boston YC

1885 Olsen's American Yacht List (#1407)
Name: Secret
Owner: S. M. Weld; Club(s): 11 [Beverly]; Port: Wareham
Type & Rig CB Cat
LOA 22.9; LWL 21.5; Extr. Beam 8.8; Draught 1.8
Builder J. B. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R. I.; Built when 1864

1890-91 Manning's American Yacht List (#2544)
Name: Secret
Owner: E. F Linton; Club(s): 93 [Monatiquot], 91, 37 [Quincy], 62 [Hull]; Port: Weymouth, Mass.
Type & Rig CB Sloop
LOA 22.6; LWL 22.6; Extr. Beam 11.0; Draught 1.8
Builder Herreshoff & Stone; Designer D. S. Stone; Built where Bristol, R. I.; Built when 1864
Note: Reb[uilt] [18]88 at Canarsie and alt[ered] from Cat rig

1896 Manning's American Yacht List (#1776)
Name: Secret
Owner: Edward F Linton; Club(s): 96; Port: Canarsie, N.Y.
Type & Rig CB Cat.
LOA 22.2; LWL 19.10; Extr. Beam 11.0; Draught 1.8
Builder Herreshoff & Stone; Designer D. S. Stone; Built where Bristol, R. I.; Built when 1864

Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.

Supplement

From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
  • Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff

Name: Secret
Type: 21' 5" cat
Owner: S. M. Weld [sic, Weld was owner in 1884 as per 1885 American Yacht List]
Year: 1864
Row No.: 612

Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.

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