Herreshoff #192502es [Unbuilt 68ft LWL Schooner Yacht]
Particulars
Type: Schooner
Designed by: NGH
Not built, not assigned, cancelled, etc.: 1925-11-5
LOA: 98' (29.87m)
LWL: 68' (20.73m)
Beam: 20' 6" (6.25m)
Draft: 12' 9.5" (3.90m)
Rig: Schooner
Built for: Ayer, Nathaniel F.
Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.
Model
Model number: 1324Model location: H.M.M. Workshop West Wall Right
Vessels from this model:
0 built, modeled by NGH
Original text on model:
"68' WL Schooner not used Feb 1922" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)
Model Comment:
"Reference to Model 1324 was added by CvdL because at a scale of 1/32 its overall length would match the 98ft overall length of this schooner. The model was apparently mentioned by NGH on November 5, 1925 in his diary when he wrote "Begin measuring off 68' w.l. sch[ooner] model, to be ready if Nat[hanael] Ayer decides to build." November 5, 1925 is also the date of the first page of offset booklet HH.4.208 which begins with "68' w.l. Schooner yacht. Overall 98'. ..." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 14, 2022.)
Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.
Offsets
Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.208
Offset booklet contents:
68' w.l. schooner yacht.
Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)
Documents
Nathanael G. Herreshoff
"[1925-11-05] Thu 5: Begin measuring off 68' w.l. sch[ooner] model, to be ready if Nat[haniel] Ayer decides to build." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1925. Manuscript (excerpts). Diary access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff.)
"Nov[ember] 5 1925.
68' w.l. Schooner Yacht.
Overall 98'. Beam 20' 6".
Draft 12' 9 1/2". Frame spaces (if laid down with scale 11 1/2" = one foot 23/24 size of measurements. Waterline w[ou]ld be 65' 2" and frame spaces 19 1/6". If with 11 1/4 scale waterline w[ou]ld be 64' 5 1/2" and frame spaces 18 3/4").
If built of steel deduct 1/4" for plating and if composit construction deduct 2 1/4" for planking.
Sheer height is to upper side of deck of 2" and rail height is to under side of rail." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. [Penciled notes in Offset Booklet HH.4.208.] November 5, 1925. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection, MIT Museum, Cambridge, MA.)
Archival Documents
"[Item Description:] Two sets of penciled pantograph hull sections on gothic font 'Herreshoff Manufacturing Company, Bristol, R.I.' stationery titled '68ft w.l. schooner [#192502es]. Measured off [Model 1324] Nov[ember] 5-7 1925. Scale 3/8. 20in frame spaces. Every 3 frames'. No notes or calculations." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_03300. Folder [no #]. 1925-11-05 to 1925-11-07.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections on gothic font 'Herreshoff Manufacturing Company, Bristol, R.I.' stationery titled '68ft w.l. [#192502es]. Model [Model 1324] measured Nov[ember] 5-7 1925. At 1/10 w.l. spaces (18.8ft). Scale 3/8'. With note 'Ratio to 75ft w.l. model .916 = cube-root(.7685). Comparative displ[acement] 3190/4420 = .7240'. With calculations arriving at a displacement of 3190cuft [= 204160lbs] and wetted surface = 1524[sqft] and calculation beginning with 'If w.l. increased to 73 then ...'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_03290. Folder [no #]. 1925-11-05 to 1925-11-07.)
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Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #192502es [Unbuilt 68ft LWL Schooner Yacht] even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.
Further Reading
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Taglang, Jacques. Mariette and the Herreshoff Schooners. Two vols. Eynesse, 2010.
Vessel biographies, large-scale sail and lines plans reproduced from original HMCo plans. The definitive book on Herreshoff schooners.
Supplement
Research Note(s)
"This unbuilt schooner was designed for N. F. Ayer. See NGH diary of November 5, 1925 NGH: 'Begin measuring off 68ft w.l. sch[ooner] model, to be ready if Nat[haniel] Ayer decides to build." See also offset booklet HH.4.208, dated November 5, 1925 which begins with '68ft w.l. Schooner yacht. Overall 98ft. Beam 20ft 6in. Draft 12ft 9 1/2in. Frame spaces (If laid down with scale 11 1/2in = one foot 23/24 size of measurements, Waterline w'ld be 65ft 2in and frame spaces 19 1/6. If with 11 1/4 scale, water line w'ld be 64ft 5 1/2in and frame spaces 18 3/4). If built of steel deduct 1/4in for plating and if composit[e] construction deduct 2 1/4in for planking. ...'" (Source: van der Linde, Claas. October 15, 2014.)
"This schooner may have been intended to have been built from Model 1324 which is believed to be a preliminary model for #891s WILDFIRE or from Model 219 which is the final model for WILDFIRE. Further research is required." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. April 1, 2019.)
Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.
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