HMCo #668s Dorothy Q. [Dorothy 2]

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Particulars

Construction_Record_Title.jpgName: Dorothy Q. [Dorothy 2]
Type: Q-Boat
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1907-1-25
Launch: 1907-5-3
Construction: Wood
LOA: 37' 0" (11.28m)
LWL: 26' 6" (8.08m)
Beam: 7' 10" (2.39m)
Draft: 6' 0" (1.83m)
Rig: Sloop
Sail Area: 820sq ft (76.2sq m)
Displ.: 10,784 lbs (4,892 kg)
Keel: yes
Ballast: Lead outside
Built for: Burgess and Gay, Hollis and Frederick L.
Amount: $2,925.00
Note(s) in HMCo Construction Record: Q class
Last reported: 1925 (aged 18)

Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.


Model

Model #226Model number: 226
Model location: H.M.M. Model Room South Wall Center

Vessels from this model:
3 built, modeled by NGH
#668s Dorothy Q. [Dorothy 2] (1907)
#669s Eleanor (1907)
#670s Seneca (1907, Extant)

Original text on model:
"1907 #668 with original bow, scale length 5/8 of 1/12 breadth draft 15/16 of 1/12 frame space 10" DOROTHY Q
#669 with long bow ditto long under breadth, draft, frame space, ELEANOR
#670 with long bow dittos under all except scale 1/12 breadth and draft 13/12 of 1/12 frame space 10 1/2" SENECCA" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)

Model Description:
"26'6" lwl Dorothy Q, Q-class sloop of 1907. Also, with longer bow, 27' lwl Q-class sloop Eleanor and, with change in scale, 32'4" lwl P-class sloop Seneca, both of 1907." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)

Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.


Offsets

Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.157

Offset booklet contents:
#668, #669 [26' 6" & 27' w.l. Q-class sloops Dorothy Q & Eleanor].


Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)

Drawings

Main drawing Dwg 076-076 (HH.5.05531) Explore all drawings relating to this boat.

List of drawings:
   Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
   HMCo #668s Dorothy Q. [Dorothy 2] are listed in bold.
   Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
  1. Dwg 070-050 (HH.5.05050): Quarter Chock (1903-04-02)
  2. Dwg 130-099 (HH.5.10405): Sails > 668, 669 Dorothy Q and Eleanor (1907-02-05)
  3. Dwg 095-063 (HH.5.07866): Deck-House and Details (1907-02-13)
  4. Dwg 025-041 (HH.5.01792): Construction List for # 668 (1907-02-15)
  5. Dwg 127-197 (HH.5.10065): Sails > Sails "Dorothy Q" & "Eleanor" (1907-02-17)
  6. Dwg 064-081 (HH.5.04557): Rudder with Details (1907-02-21)
  7. Dwg 065-054 (HH.5.04650): Tiller Socket (1907-02-22)
  8. Dwg 081-057 (HH.5.06145): Spars for 668 and 669 (1907-03-02)
  9. Dwg 076-076 (HH.5.05531): Construction Dwg > Class Q Boat 36'-7" O.A., 26'-6" W.L., 7'-10" Beam, 6'-0" Draught (1907-03-05)
  10. Dwg 091-117 (HH.5.07392): Block and Metal List # 668 - 669 (1907-03-28)
  11. Dwg 110-091 (HH.5.09056): Jib Stay Spreader and Details (1907-04-25)
  12. Dwg 110-092 (HH.5.09057): Spreaders for Small Sail Boats (1907-04-27)
  13. Dwg 110-093 (HH.5.09058): Details for # 668 - 669 (1907-05-01)
  14. Dwg 130-099 (HH.5.10406): Sails > Sail Plan Dorothy Q (1926-10-21)
Source: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Together with: Hasselbalch, Kurt with Frances Overcash and Angela Reddin. Guide to The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., 1997. Together with: Numerous additions and corrections by Claas van der Linde.
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.

Documents

Nathanael G. Herreshoff

"[1915-04-08] Thu 8: Fair & warm W A.M. H[eavy] shower at 11. Latched up at St Georges & left [on the] 11 o'clock stage. Go to Hamilton Hotel. Take walk in p.m. to marine r[ailwa]y & see Dorothy 2 [Q-boat #668s which at the time was owned by Stuart S. W. Hamilton in Hamilton, Bermuda], More Joy [Q-boat #691s which at the time was owned by J. D. B. Talbot in Hamilton, Bermuda] & Achilles [Q-boat designed and built by Burgess & Packard in 1908 and owned by Dudley M. Trott M.D. in Hamilton, Bermuda] hauled out. With the Greenes in evening." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1915. Manuscript (excerpts). Diary access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff.)

"No. 668 [#668s]. Feb[ruary] 1907.
No. 669 [#669s] (Bow lengthened)
Frame spaces 10".
Use scale 10/12 for lengths and 11 1/4 / 12 for breadths and depths.
Crown 3 3/8" in 8' 0".
In making moulds deduct
for planking 7/8" (common rule)
for timbers 1 9/16" (common rule)
Total 2 7/16"
Sheer line is to under (upper for #669) side of deck (#668). (Deck 13/16").
Keel plank 1 7/8 thick with rabbate 1/2 up from underside. False pieces will be required forward & aft to finish out form.
Note.
For 669 is to upper side of deck. Change in lead as per drawing.
Bow lengthened in #669 as per figures in lower part of pages.
Planking in #669 to be 25/32.
Fin[?] out[?] mould of #668 3/32" to allow for diff[erence] in planking." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. [Handwritten (in pencil and ink) note in Offset Booklet HH.4.157.] February 1907. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection, MIT Museum, Cambridge, MA.)

"... Dorothy Q [Name], 668 [Building Number], 22 [Rating], 26.47 [Waterline], 23.35 [L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule], 7.67 [B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule], 5.97 [d = draft of water as for Universal Rule], 169 [D = displacement in cubic foot as for Universal Rule (= 10,784 lbs or 4.8 long tons)], 820 [Sail Area], 993 [Sail limit Present rule], -173 [Diff.], 830 [Sail limit Proposed rule], -10 [Diff.], [Notes] ..." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

L. Francis Herreshoff

"... I was first initiated into the virtues of simplicity as a lad of about sixteen, when I went on a couple of trips on the Q boat Dorothy Q owned by Hollis Burgess. Dorothy Q had about the same cubic feet of cabin as H 28 though twice her draft and three times her sail area, but her paid hand is our present subject (for he was my mentor). This son of the the sea of about seventy winters Hollis annually took from the Old Sailor's Home at Boston. He was one of those hardy perennials who subsisted mostly on rum and tobacco. In his voyage through this life he was not hampered by any other possessions than the few things attached to his body, which were his clothes, a glass eye, a steel hook in lieu of a right hand, a sheath knife and a plug of tobacco. His body seemed as immune to germs and the ravages of time as some copper sheathed teak planking. Not one piece of clothes would he take off on the hottest day, or add in a rainy northeaster. He could make a pier head leap, arrive on board en masse, complete, ready for instant action. He lived aboard the Dorothy Q without benefit of heat, light, or pillow. But what I am getting at is his cabin arrangement. He had an exact place for everything; the anchor warp, ditty bag and reefing tackle were as reverently displayed as the chalice and relics on some high priest's altar.
The chart, compass and binoculars --- these symbols of his calling --- he placed and arranged as carefully as a lady arranging a bouquet of flowers. When in port these decorations were enhanced by a tasteful addition of the marline spike, fid, and serving mallet as he sat arming the sounding lead and rechecking the marks and deeps on the lead line. And so the olfactory perves could share his enchantment, a ball of marline, a hank of oakum and some tarred hemp lay on the transom. What a setting this was for the yarn which was always forthcoming, for this son of the sea was both playwright and actor. ... Since that time I have designed many cabins, ..., but never have I equaled the pure nautical simplicity of the Dorothy Q's cabin or its charm, where each decoration was a sailorman's symbol, for what is there pleasanter to contemplate than the polished log and its rotor, or the folded trysail --- that auxiliary motor. ..." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Cabin Plan of H 28. How to Cruise on a Small Boat Sensibly." In: The Writing of L. Francis Herreshoff. New York, 1946, p. 31.)

"The 'Q' boats 'Dorothy Q' and 'Eleanor' came out in 1907, and the 'Eleanor' proved to be the fastest boat in this class, and among other prizes won the principal cup offered at the race given in honor of the Jamestown Exposition." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. The Wizard of Bristol. The Life and Achievements of Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, together with An Account of Some of the Yachts he Designed. New York, 1953, p. 271.)

Other Contemporary Text Source(s)

"Massachusetts Bay's new leading class is now taking shape, a table of proposed scantlings having been drawn up to form the basis of a 'gentleman's agreement' among owners, and the first boat having been ordered.
The initial order for the class has been placed with Herreshoff by Hollis Burgess, of Boston, and Frederick L. Gay of Brookline, who will share equally in her ownership. ... " (Source: Anon. "New Class Q Takes Shape. First Boat is Ordered From Herreshoff by Hollis Burgess and Frederick L. Gay." Boston Globe, January 13, 1907, p. 52.)

"Yesterday morning the 22-footer Dorothy Q, was taken from the east shops of the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company on a low gear and today was lowered into the bay. The craft is 22 feet on the waterline, 33 feet over all and has a draft of 5 feet 8 inches. She was built for H. M. Hollis [sic] and F. L. Gay of Boston and will participate in yacht races this season. She will sail to Boston tomorrow." (Source: Anon. "Bristol and Vicinity." Bristol Phoenix, May 3, 1907, p. 2.)

"Providence, R. I. Friday [May 3, 1907]. --- The Herreshoffs launched at Bristol this afternoon the 22-footer Dorothy Q., perhaps the most daintily modelled craft ever turned out from the internationally famous shops. The yacht is 33 feet over all and has a draught of 5 feet. Her sheer and freeboard are moderate, as are the overhangs. The stern is drawn out daintily at the counter and is notably sharp compared with the bow, but the sharp turn amidships is only about five inches above the waterline. The dead rise resembles that of the Massachusetts Bay type of last year. The keel is deep and short, and the yacht's underbody indicates both speed and quickness in stays. Captain N. G. Herreshoff is believed to have designed the Dorothy Q. with a view of testing some ideas for the next America's Cup defender. Her owners are Mr. F. L. Gay and Mr. Hollis Burgess, of Boston." (Source: Anon. "Herreshoff's Latest Sloop." New York Herald, May 4, 1907, p. 10.)

"... Dorothy Q., 22-rater, owned by F. L. Gay and Hollis Burgess, is expected at Marblehead from Bristol a week from today. ..." (Source: Anon. "Notes from the Week's Log." Boston Globe, May 5, 1907, p. 48.)

"BRISTOL, R I, May 6 [1907] --- The Dorothy Q. first to be launched of the six class Q racers built this season in various shops for Massachusetts bay, was given a trial today off Bristol under the eye of her designer, Capt N. G. Herreshoff.
The boat is owned by Frederick L. Gay and Hollis Burgess of the Boston yacht club, and was sailed today by Mr Burgess.
Capt Herreshoff, who gave the boat a preliminary spin yesterday, had the tiller for a few minutes, and at the end of the trial expressed himself as thoroughly satisfied with the boat's performance.
The wind this morning was light and variable, but this afternoon it settled down to a strong sou'wester.
In all kinds of going, and on all points of sailing, the boat showed herself well balanced, fast, handy and able.
In a run under spinnaker, a reach with balloon jib, and also on the wind, she moved easily, and developed unmistakable speed.
She stood up to her canvas beautifully in the stiff wind this afternoon, showing that she will prove a husky traveler in a breeze.
The Dorothy Q is a small boat, as boats of this class go, and at first glance looks chunky. Her overall length is 37 feet, waterline 26 feet 6 inches, breadth 8 feet and draft 5 feet 10 inches. Her displacement is about 8000 pounds and sail area 760 square feet. This displacement is nearly 2000 pounds less than that of the largest boat in the class, the Essex, designed by Crowninshield.
The Dorothy Q has rather low freeboard, less than the Orestes, last season's champion, and probably less than nearly all the other boats of the class. She has a full mid-section and well-turned ends, with a stubby bowsprit, having no bobstay.
A small cabin trunk is a feature of the boat's deck plan that will be noticed at once. It is not above seven inches high at the sides, but gives good headroom. The cabin is fitted with cushioned transoms, and is very comfortable.
The appearance of the Dorothy Q is an important event in American yachting, as she is the first small boat designed by N. G. Herreshoff to the universal rule, now in use by all American yacht clubs, of which the 'Wizard of Bristol' is the author." (Source: Anon. "Gives Promise Of Proving Speedy. The Dorothy Q Given a Trial Off Bristol by Hollis Burgess, One of Her Owners." Boston Globe, May 6, 1907, p. 2.)

"The sloop Dorothy Q, built by Herreshoff for Frederick L. Gay and Hollis Burgess, has been launched. This is one of two Class Q boats that have been built at Bristol. Her trial was a very good one and it is expected that the Dorothy Q will make a good showing, particularly as she will be well handled. She is built of mahogany with oak frames and complies with the scantling restrictions agreed on by the Massachusetts yachtsmen. She is to meet the Orestes, the winner of the Lipton cup last year." (Source: Anon. "Local Yachtsmen Are Busy. ... Dorothy Q. a Handsome Craft." New York Sun, May 12, 1907, p. 12.)

"[A long and detailed account of Dorothy Q's voyage to Jamestown and her races.]" (Source: Burgess, Hollis. "A Thousand Miles in Dorothy Q." Rudder, January 1908, p. 20-24, Rudder February 1908, p. 79-81, Ruder March 1908, p. 137-139, and Rudder April 1908, p. 343-346.)

"No. 25156 --- For Sale --- Fast Class Q sloop, Dorothy Q, 37 ft. o. a., 25 ft. 3 in. w.l., 8 ft. 7 in. beam, 6 ft. draught. Designed by N. C. [sic, i.e. G.] Herreshoff, and built by Herreshoff Manufacturing Co., in Bristol, R. I., in 1907. Beautifully constructed with double cedar planking. Has a very handsome narrow strip deck; 7,000 lb of lead on keel. Dorothy Q has a comfortable cabin, with long transoms and handsome green corduroy cushions. Two suits of sails, one made by Herreshoff, and one by Wilson & Silsby; 707 sq. ft. in area. Two spinnakers, balloon jib, No. 2 and No. 3 jib. Very complete inventory, including round bottom tender, stove, cooking utensils, and complete cruising equipment. Has cruised from the coast of Maine to Norfolk, Va., returning from the Jamestown Exposition by the outside route. Has won many prizes, and is a fine cruising boat. Unquestionably the handsomest boat in her class. Apply to Hollis Burgess Yacht Agency, 15 Exchange St., Boston, Mass." (Source: Rudder, March 1908, p. 183.)

"F. T. Bedford, of the Bridgeport Y. C, and Crescent Athletic Club, has purchased the Class Q boat Dorothy Q, of Hollis Burgess. Dorothy Q was built last year by Herreshoff and raced in Eastern waters for the Lipton cup and later at Jamestown for the King's cup. This year she has been racing on Narragansett Bay, but now will compete in the races on Long Island Sound and later on Gravesend Bay." (Source: Anon. "F. T. Bedford Buys the Dorothy Q." Forest and Stream, August 8, 1908, p. 222.)

"... Sloop Dorothy Q, sold by F. T. Bedford to Stuart Hamilton, of Hamilton, Bermuda. ..." (Source: Anon. [Title?. Forest and Stream, 1909, vol 72, [p. 72?].)

"... A 'gentlemen's agreement' among owners resulted in a new racing class in Massachusetts Bay, Class Q, and into it went Mr. Burgess. With F. L. Gay, owner of the schooner yacht Sunshine, he placed an order for a boat to conform to the restrictions, and Dorothy Q. was the result, the name of a famous New England belle having been appropriated. She was a well-turned boat and a wholesome type with easy, graceful lines and lots of power, perhaps the most daintily-modeled craft ever turned out by the internationally famous Herreshoffs. Dorothy Q. is a small boat as craft in the class go, being 37 feet over all, 24 feet waterline, 8 feet beam and 5.10 feet draft and fitted with a comfortable cabin. On her maiden trip to Marblehead from Bristol, R. I., the boat made the distance of 165 miles at the rate of ten miles an hour, the first of a series of open-ocean jaunts later recorded to her credit. This trip was made in hard weather, the finish across Massachusetts Bay being a drive against a westerly gale and rugged sea, and the men who made the passage do not seek an encore.
Dorothy Q. went fast all that season and quickly established herself as a favorite with yachting sharps. In August her skipper won the cup offered by the Corinthian Y. C. with but one second to the good over Eleanor after one of the most exciting battles ever witnessed between yachts off Marblehead. It was the sailing brains of Mr. Burgess that won the victory over A. C Jones in that memorable event.
Late in August Dorothy Q. was taken to the Jamestown Exposition by her intrepid skipper, stopping long enough at New York to beat the Class Q boats on Gravesend Bay. At Norfolk, Va., she won the Roosevelt series and came in second to Eleanor in a contest for the Lipton cup, scoring eleven points to Eleanor's twelve. After the races were finished, Dorothy Q. made an outside run home, covering the distance between Hampton Roads and New York, 268 miles in sixty-eight consecutive hours. 'A Thousand Miles with Dorothy Q.' written by her owner, attracted much attention as a description of adventures while racing and cruising. ..." (Source: Anon. "Hollis Burgess." Forest and Stream, August 6, 1910, p. 224-225.)

Archival Documents

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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections titled 'Model to be used for 22 rating. No 668 [#668 DOROTHY Q] at scale b& d 11 1/4/12 of 1/12in. … O.a. 26.25[ft]. w.l. 26.4[ft]. (1st model for 57ft of Sept[ember] 23 [19]06 changed in keel only). 1907 [DOROTHY Q was contracted for on January 24, 1907]'. With calculations arriving at total displacement of 168.5cuft = 10770lbs and wetted surface = 238.5sqft, numerous rating and weight calculations and further calculations added on June 3, 1907 '#669 [ELEANOR]. No one on board w.l. 26ft 0 1/2in (1 5/16in light). ... Disp[lacement] = ... 154.1[cuft = 9862lbs]'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_01590. Folder [no #]. 1907-(01 ?).)


"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections titled 'No 670 [#670s SENECA]. 27 Rating. From model originally made Seot[ember] 23, [19]06 for 57ft class, not used. Altered for #668 [DOROTHY Q], 22 rating and again for #669 [ELEANOR]. Scale length 1in per ft. Breadth & depth 13/12 of 1in per foot. Length w.l. 32ft 3 1/4in. L = 28.02. 1907 [SENECA was contracted for on February 6, 1907.]'. With two sets of calculations, the first crossed out and the second one marked 'After oiling & adjusting [the pantograph] arriving at a total displacement of 268.5cuft [= 17184lbs] and a wetted surface of 325[sqft]." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_01570. Folder [no #]. 1907-(02 ?).)


"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph lead sections titled 'No 668 [#668 DOROTHY Q]. 22[ft] rating. Scale sections 1/8in x 15/16. Length 1/8in. Feb[ruary] 4, 1907'. With calculations and note 'Required 6210lbs with c.g. at .563 of w.l. ...' and concluding with note '6210lbs at 24.08 frame'. Also with note 'For #669 [ELEANOR] 390lbs added. ...' but this note crossed out and corrected to 'Same as #668'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Lead Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_08950. Folder [no #]. 1907-02-04.)


"[Item Description:] Penciled notes, apparently a list of things to do. Marked in upper right corner 'DOROTHY Q [#668s]'. Mentioning things like 'Two pillows', 'Marline', 'Spare line', 'Cup holder', 'Mop', 'scupper hole in the cockpit', 'Bore hole in floor board' and 'Faster Fore hatch with thumb screw' and, on verso, 'Herreshoff 35lb anchor' and 'Hook on bowsprit for balloon jib'. Undated (DOROTHY Q was launched in May 1907.)" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (?) (creator). Penciled Notes. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_01320. Folder [no #]. No date (1907-05 or later ?).)


"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink and) table / design rule titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080. Folder [no #]. 1907-07-13.)


"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink) rating rule titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Handwritten Rating Rule. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00260. Folder [no #]. 1907-07-16.)


"[Item Description:] Blueprint table titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Blueprint Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0169. WRDT08, Folder 16, formerly MRDE06. 1907-07-16.)


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"[Item Transcription:] Order book with carbon copy duplicates of instructions given by NGH titled 'Herreshoff Mfg. Co. Orders from N.G. Herreshoff'. Relevant contents:
§79: Work Order [For] #668s, #669s. [When wanted] Last of April. Rigging [2 pages] (1907-02-15)
§81: Work Order [For] #668s, #669s. [When wanted] Last of April. Blocks (1907-02-17)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Order Book. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE08_03460. Folder [no #]. 1900-02 to 1909-10.)




"[Item Description:] Penciled table showing LOA, LWL, Beam, Draft, QBL, Stem, [symbol], sft[?] and Displ[acement] for KATOURA [#722s], WESTWARD [#692s], VAGRANT, QUEEN MAB [#698s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RESOLUTE [#725s], WINSOME [#664s], 2nd IROLITA [#658s], DORIS [#625s], AVENGER [#666s], 50 Footers [#711s], ADVENTURESS [#685s], IROLITA [#591s], FLYING CLOUD [#703s], BELISARIUS [#1266s], NEITH [#665s], AZOR [#578s], NAULAKHA [#687s], SENECA [#670s], NY30s [#626s], SENTA [#688s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], FLIGHT [#607s], PLEASURE [#907s], QUAKERESS [#676s], KILDEE [#460s], and the 12 1/2ft Class [#744s]. With formulas for mean length L, Draft limit by rule and freeboard at three positions. Undated, on verso of NYYC invitation dated December 11, 1933 but listing of BELISARIUS which was built in 1934/1935 indicates that this was written at that time or later. Filed close to and possibly related to what appears to be an early version of NGH's 'Observations on the Proportions of Sailing Yachts' from July 1936." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Tabulated Dimensions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE02_03040. Folder [no #]. No date (1936-07 ?).)


Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #668s Dorothy Q. [Dorothy 2] even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.

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Registers

1910 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart Hamilton (Hamilton, Bermda); Club(s): Bmu.; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 6; LWL 25.0; Extr. Beam 8.6
Sailmaker Herreshoff; Sails made in [19]07
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1912 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#797)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]11; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1914 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#826)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]15; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1917 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#814)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]11; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1920 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#806)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]15; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1923 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#791)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]15; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1925 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#849)
Name: Dorothy Q
Owner: Stuart S. W. Hamilton; Port: Hamilton, Bermuda
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], TC [Trunk Cabin], Slp
LOA 37-0; LWL 25-0; Extr. Beam 8-0; Draught 6-0
Sailmaker W&S [Wilson & Silsby Boston]; Sails made in [19]15; Sail Area 900
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.

Supplement

From the 1920 and earlier HMCo Index Cards at the MIT Museum
  • Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass.
From the 1931 HMCo-published Owner's List

Name: Dorothy
Type: J & M
Length: 26'6"
Owner: Burgess, Hollis

Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. "A Partial List of Herreshoff Clients." In: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. Herreshoff Yachts. Bristol, Rhode Island, ca. 1931.

From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
  • Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff

Name: Dorothy Q
Type: 25' sloop
Owner: Hollis Burgess
Year: 1907
Row No.: 171

Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.

From the 2000 (ca.) Transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Vermilya/Bray

Month: Jun [sic, i.e. Jan]
Day: 25
Year: 1907
E/P/S: S
No.: 0668
Name: Dorothy Q
LW: 26' 6"
B: 7' 10"
D: 6' 0"
Rig: J & M
K: y
Ballast: O. Lead
Amount: 2925
Notes Constr. Record: Q Class.
Last Name: Burgess
First Name: Hollis

Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.

Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.

Research Note(s)

"Universal Rule Class Q." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 7, 2009.)

"Sail number Q-34." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. April 13, 2012.)

"Launched early May 1907. Trial May 6, 1907." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. October 21, 2010.)

"Built in 98 days (contract to launch; equivalent to $30/day, 110 lbs displacement/day)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. January 16, 2024.)

"[Sail area info.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

"[Displacement (168.5 cubic feet = 10,784lbs).]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.

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