Herreshoff #191222es [Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member]

"Herreshoff Manufacturing Company
July 31, 1912.
Mr. G. A. Cormack, Sec., New York Yacht Club,
37 West 44th St., New York, N.Y.
Dear Sir:-
Referring to our conversation a week ago on the HELIANTHUS [#288p], I am sending you under separate cover by same mail blue prints of internal arrangement, also diagram of rig of a schooner yacht that will rate just under 65. The size of hull is somewhat larger than we were talking of, a good deal due to having rather a snug rig in measurement.
Although the sail measurement by rule is rather small, I think it would be a very effective one, and at the same time, easy to handle, as I have in mind hoisting the jib on the stay and keeping it under cover instead of unbending, also the sheet to work on a traveler.
The sloop plan is one of the same sail measurement as the schooner, just for comparison, and as a sloop, would rate about 71.
I think the internal arrangement I have worked out is very good as a general plan for a yacht of the size and intended for racing as well as cruising. Of course, every one has his personal ideas about such things, and if anything comes out of this project it might be best to allow a little variation in internal plans, as was done with the [New York] 70s in 1900.
My sketches are for schooners of about 103ft over all, 77ft water line 14ft draft and 21ft beam. We could build either all steel or composite but I am inclined to think all metal best.
We have made an approximate estimate of cost for three or more of not to exceed Fifty-five Thousand ($55,000.00) dollars each. This would be for the yachts rigged and equipped throughout, two small boats, one being a power launch if desired, lighted and furnished complete below deck minus china, glass, silver, table and bed linen in owners quarters.
Should you need any further information before coming on, we will be glad to give it, and after it is decided which type would be selected, i.e., steel or composite, schooner or sloop rig, we will draw up specifications, etc. for you, and with as close an estimate as we can.
Respectfully,
Nathl. G. Herreshoff." (Source: Herreshoff, Nath. G. [Letter to George. A. Cormack, Secr. New York Yacht Club.] Herreshoff Marine Museum Measuring and Measurement Rules (Box 2). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. July 31, 1912.)

"[Item Transcription:] [Penciled memorandum:] Memo. July 30, 1912.
Steel sch[oone]r yacht [#191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member] of 70 [corrected or altered to 77] odd[?] ft w.l., 21ft beam, about 1/2 the displacement of ELENA & WESTWARD, steel construction. Equipped complete having small boats, one being a power launch, furnished throughout in our usual manner, i.e. cushions, mattresses, pillows, carpets, galley & crew quarters outfit and lighted. Price for 3 or more about $55,000.-." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Memorandum. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_02260. Folder [no #]. 1912-07-30.)
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"[Item Transcription:] [On Herreshoff Manufacturing Company stationery, marked 'Copy':] Referring to our conversation a week ago on the HELIANTHUS [#288p], I am sending you under separate cover by same mail blue prints of internal arrangement, also diagram of rig of a schooner yacht [#191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member] that will rate just under 65. The size of hull is somewhat larger than we were talking of, a good deal due to having rather a snug rig in measurement.
Although the sail measurement by rule is rather small, I think it would be a very effective one, and at the same time, easy to handle, as I have in mind hoisting the jib on the stay and keeping it under cover instead of unbending, also the sheet to work on a traveler.
The sloop plan is one of the same sail measurement as the schooner, just for comparison, and as a sloop, would rate about 71.
I think the internal arrangement I have worked out is very good as a general plan for a yacht of the size and intended for racing as well as cruising. Of course, every one has his personal ideas about such things, and if anything comes out of this project it might be best to allow a little variation in internal plans, as was done with the [New York] 70s in 1900.
My sketches are for schooners of about 103ft over all, 77ft water line 14ft draft and 21ft beam. We could build either all steel or composite but I am inclined to think all metal best.
We have made an approximate estimate of cost for three or more of not to exceed Fifty-five Thousand ($55,000.00) dollars each. This would be for the yachts rigged and equipped throughout, two small boats, one being a power launch if desired, lighted and furnished complete below deck minus china, glass, silver, table and bed linen in owners quarters.
Should you need any further information before coming on, we will be glad to give it, and after it is decided which type would be selected, i.e., steel or composite, schooner or sloop rig, we will draw up specifications, etc. for you, and with as close an estimate as we can." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. Letter (copy) to Cormack, George A. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_75680. Measuring and Measurement Rules (Box 2), Folder B2F17, formerly MRDE15. 1912-07-31.)
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"[Item Description:] Ink on paper sailplan of a gaff-rigged schooner with penciled-in deep-keel underwater profile titled 'O.A. 103[ft]. W.L. 77[ft]. B[eam] 21[ft]. d[raft] 13.9[ft] [#191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member]'. With penciled calculations arriving at total sail areas of 5010sqft and 6530sqft and a schooner rating of 64.5ft. Marked in pencil '2 Blueprints. July 31, 1912' in lower left corner. (See letter from NGH to George Cormack dated July 31, 1912 which was accompanied by a blueprint of this plan)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Inked Sailplan. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE08_03130. Folder [no #]. 1912-07-31.)
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"[Item Description:] HMCo Plan HH.5.02146 (029-052). Blueprint general arrangement plan with plan view and inboard profile of a schooner yacht titled '103ft o.a. 77ft w.l. 21ft Beam. Scale 1/4in = 1ft. July 31, 1912'. [#191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member]." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0135. WRDT08, Folder 12, formerly MRDE02. 1912-07-31.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Thank you very much for your letter and drawings received the 31st of July.
I think the boat [#191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member] would be a wonder either as a schooner or sloop. I will take the matter up and as soon as I have any definite information to convey will communication with you at the earliest moment.
Trusting I shall see you at Newport,
Believe me,
Most sincerely, ..." (Source: Cormack, George A. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_24390. Correspondence, Folder 71. 1912-08-05.)
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"[Item Description:] HH.5.02149 (029-055). Blueprint general arrangement plan with plan view and inboard profile titled 'Schooner 103ft overall x 77ft W.L. x 21ft Beam. Scale 1/4in = 1ft. Sept[ember] 17 1912'. Marked with pencil 'VAGRANT [#719s]'. [Note: The dimensions clearly indicate this to be #191222es Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member which had been planned as a class of boats in the summer of 1912. But mention of VAGRANT suggests that this schooner design subsequently evolved into the slightly larger VAGRANT II]." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0139. WRDT08, Folder 12, formerly MRDE02. 1912-09-17.)
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Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #191222es [Unbuilt Schooner for NYYC Member] even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.

• Taglang, Jacques. Mariette and the Herreshoff Schooners. Two vols. Eynesse, 2010.
  Vessel biographies, large-scale sail and lines plans reproduced from original HMCo plans. The definitive book on Herreshoff schooners.

"Proposal for a 65 foot rating schooner class for members of the NYYC offered by NGH at an estimated price of $55,000 each. For more information about this schooner (which NGH suggested could also be built as a sloop) see plan HH.5.02149 (029-055): Prelim. Plans of Sail Boats > Schooner 103' o.a. x 77' w.l. x 21' beam (1912-09-17). Also, see letter from NGH to George Cormack, dated July 31, 1912 (HMM Measurement Rules Box 2) for a description of this proposed schooner." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 3, 2017.)

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