HMCo #425s Wee Winn [Wee Win]

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Particulars

Construction_Record_Title.jpgName: Wee Winn [Wee Win]
Type: Half-Rater Fin Keel
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1892-2-22
Launch: 1892-6-16
Construction: Wood
LOA: 23' 10" (7.26m)
LWL: 16' 3" (4.95m)
Beam: 4' 6" (1.37m)
Draft: 3' 0" (0.91m)
Rig: Gaff Sloop
Displ.: 1,120 lbs (508 kg)
Keel: FK
Ballast: Lead
Built for: Cochran, Blair [for Ms. Winifred Sutton]
Amount: $525.00
Note(s) in HMCo Construction Record: Biddeford Eng.
Current owner: Herreshoff Marine Museum, Bristol, RI (last reported 2024 at age 132)

Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.


Model

Model #317Model number: 317
Model location: H.M.M. Model Room South Wall Right

Vessels from this model:
3 built, modeled by NGH
#421s Bee (1892)
#425s Wee Winn [Wee Win] (1892, Extant)
#448s Trust-Me [Trust Me] (1894)

Original text on model:
"BEE No. 421 1892 1" = 1'
WEE-WIN No. 425 scale 9/10 x 1/12" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)

Model Description:
"17'6" lwl Bee, a fin-keel sloop of 1892. Also, with change in scale, the 16'3" lwl Wee Winn, which is preserved in the Herreshoff Marine Museum's collection." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)

Model Comment:
"See Model 1532 which may have been a preliminary model for Wee Winn." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 27, 2009.)

Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.


Offsets

Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.080

Offset booklet contents:
#421, #422, #425 [finkeelers Bee, Handsel, Wee Win].


Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)

Drawings

Main drawing Dwg 075-026 B (HH.5.05415) Explore all drawings relating to this boat.

List of drawings:
   Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
   HMCo #425s Wee Winn [Wee Win] are listed in bold.
   Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
  1. Dwg 075-026 B (HH.5.05415); Construction Dwg > Number 425 (1892-03-21)
  2. Dwg 077-045 (HH.5.05648): Details for # 421 and 425 (1892-03-27)
  3. Dwg 080-032 1/2 (HH.5.05938): Spars for 421 and 425 (1892-04-15)
  4. Dwg 130-011 (HH.5.10313): Sails > 1/2 Rater, Number 425 (1892-05-04)
  5. Dwg 096-028 (HH.5.07984): Sails > Sails for No. 425 (1892-05-05)
  6. Dwg 075-040 A (HH.5.05431); Construction Dwg > No. 455 (1895-05-15)
Source: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Together with: Hasselbalch, Kurt with Frances Overcash and Angela Reddin. Guide to The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., 1997. Together with: Numerous additions and corrections by Claas van der Linde.
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.

Documents

Nathanael G. Herreshoff

"[1892-02-23] Tue 23: ... Took order for 1/2-rater from Blair Cochran [for Ms. Winnifred Sutton, #425s Wee Winn].
[1892-06-16] Thu 16: Launched & tried #425 Wee Winn. ..." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1892. Manuscript (excerpts). Herreshoff Marine Museum Collection.)

L. Francis Herreshoff

"Almost from the start of the fin keelers the Scots and English imported these Herreshoff creations, and in the next year or two they were to be the principal winners in the smaller British rating classes. Among the latter was the little one half-rater 'Wee Winn,' owned by Miss Cox, and she proved to be so exceedingly fast that some old-timers on the Solent are still talking about her." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. The Wizard of Bristol. The Life and Achievements of Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, together with An Account of Some of the Yachts he Designed. New York, 1953, p. 166.)

"The Wee Winn which Herreshoff designed in 1892 for Miss Cox of England, proved so exceedingly fast that she was the talk of The Solent for many years, and her hull was preserved carefully stored in a boathouse on the Isle of Wight until recently." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. An Introduction to Yachting. New York, 1963, p. 100.)

Other Herreshoff Family

"A novel and interesting feature of the yachting season of 1892 was the 'fin-keel' boat, a production of N. G. Herreshoff.
It will be seen from the cut below that some of the peculiarities of the 'Gloriana' form are embodied in this singular craft --- namely, the long overhang and the rounded elongation of the bilge to the extreme limits of the bow and stern.
The chief characteristic, however, is the fin, or in effect a fixed centreboard carrying a weight of lead on its lower edge sufficient to give the craft stability enough to balance the rigging and press of wind in the sails.
The most successful fin-keel boats have a length on water equal to three-and-a-half beams, and as the section of the hull is round or nearly so, stability is gained in a manner already explained.
The first of this style of craft was built and launched in the autumn of 1891, and was called 'Dilemma' [#412s]; she had a very moderate-sized rig, the jib-stay being secured to the extreme point of the bow, but with this she easily beat the old style of cat-boat, and showed, besides unusual speed, many other desirable qualities.
In 1892 the fin-keel boat was generally introduced, three or four sailing in Boston waters, while New York, the Lakes, and Buzzard's Bay claimed one each to two in their home waters of Narragansett Bay.
The 'Wenona' [#415s] and 'Wee Winn,' [#425s] the first in the North and the latter in the South of England, showed our friends on the other side of the sea what their racing qualities were, which are soon told by referring to their record. Out of twenty starts made by 'Wenona' she won 17 first, 2 second, and 1 third prizes, and her sister in the South was even more fortunate, winning 20 first and 1 second prizes out of twenty-one starts. ... The value of the fin-keel type in adding to the resources of yachting is limited; the type does not contribute anything of living value to yachting, it serves only as a means to show that old types can easily be beaten, but that it takes a 'machine' to do it. Fin-keels are, it is true, very pleasant to sail in, and they work beautifully, but the design is probably limited in size to 35- or 40-ft. water-line in length, for above that size the fin becomes a very troublesome adjunct in its handling and adjustment. When the boat is afloat the fin is not objectionable, but in taking the bottom by accident, or in hauling it out, it makes the boat most troublesome to handle.
Larger fin-keel boats have been projected, and one of 45 ft. length on water-line has just been built, but their success from a general view-point is highly questionable." (Source: Herreshoff, Lewis. "Yachting in America." In: Yachting. The Badminton Library of Sports and Pastimes. Vol. II, Chapter VI. London, 1894, p. 267-270.)

"Wee Winn
By Halsey C. Herreshoff II
WEE WINN, a remarkable 1892 twenty-four ft. Herreshoff fin-keeled sloop has been donated to the museum by Jonathan Janson of London and of Bembry in the Isle of Wight, England.
In October 1984, I visited the Alan Coombs' Yacht Yard on the Isle of Wight to secure arrangements for the crating and shipping of WEE WINN. After her transport by ship, WEE WINN was trucked from New York to Bristol by Fred Dick and myself.
The hull of WEE WINN though approaching one hundred years of age is in remarkably fine condition as a consequence of Mr. Jansen's careful maintenance and preservation of the yacht.
WEE WINN, hull #425, originally ordered by Blair Cochran of Biddeford, England was designed by Captain Nat Herreshoff to fit 'The One-Half Rater Class' of English small centerboarders and fin keelers. She was sailed by Miss Winnifred Sutton in the 1892 season on the Solent, winning twenty first flags and one second in twenty-one races. Over WEE WINN'S long racing carer, she proved herself the decisive champion of the Solent.
WEE WINN is the subject of admiring description by famous English naval architect Uffa Fox. He sailed the boat many times, and was presumably thus influenced for his own excellent small boat designs.
Still sporting her original builder's plate but minus her bronze fin-keel, she presents a magnificent profile. WEE WINN'S dimensions are: LWL 16'4", LOA 23'9", beam 4 '6", and depth 3'. She is a fine example of Herreshoff light weight construction of the early 1890s. This acquisition is particularly significant not only because of the yacht's long and colorful racing career but because WEE WINN is the only fin-keeler on display at the Herreshoff Marine Museum." (Source: Herreshoff Marine Museum Chronicle, Spring 1985, p. 1.)

Other Contemporary Text Source(s)

"The Herreshoff Manufacturing Co., has recently received an order by cable for a half rater [#425s Wee Winn], to be sailed by an English gentleman on the Solent. The craft will be about 24 feet over all, will have a thin keel and be of the Dilemma [#412s] pattern. This order is the second received this winter from across the water [the first having been #415s Wenonah]." (Source: Anon. "Local Affairs." Bristol Phoenix, February 27, 1892, p. 2.)

"... The one-half rater for British waters, of which mention was made not long ago, will go to Southampton. She is likely to have a hot time of it there, for the class is a favorite and the competition keen. She will be 16 1/2 feet water-line and much after the style of the other fin keels. ..." (Source: Anon. "Herreshoffs Are Busy. Many Boats Steadily Growing in the Bristol Shops." Boston Globe, March 13, 1892, p. 17.)

"The fame of Gloriana has brought to her builders a number of inquiries from foreign yachtsmen, but only two, we believe, have resulted in possible orders. One yacht, a rater for a Clyde yachtsman [#415s Wenonah], has already been shipped. The other will be a tiny craft, a half-rater, ordered by Mr. Blair Cochrane for Miss Winifred Sutton, for racing in the Bembridge (Eng.) Sailing Club. She will be a fin keel and her name will be Wee-winn. Another inquiry was from Lord Dunraven, for a 5 rater, the order being subsequently placed with Messrs. Summers & Payne, of Southampton. Still another, for a 5 or 10-rater, was from the famous old yachtsman Prince Battbyany-Strattman, now of Vienna, once owner of the racing cutter Kriemhilda. So far as we are aware nothing will be built to this latter inquiry." (Source: Anon. [No title.] Forest and Stream, March 24, 1892, p. 283.)

"... At Bristol, the Herreshoffs have sent the 16-foot cat yawl [#419s Coquina 2nd] to Minnetonka, the 17-foot fin [#421s Bee] to Auburn, N. Y., and the half-rater [#425s Wee Winn] to Southhampton." (Source: Anon. "Yachts and Yachtsmen." Boston Globe, June 26, 1892, p. 21.)

"The spring work at Bristol is about finished, only the large steel steam yacht [#172p Truant] remaining. Last week the the half-rater Wee Win [#425s] was sent to New York for shipment to England, a 17ft. fin-keel [#421s Bee] was sent to Auburn, N. Y., a 16ft. cat-yawl to Lake Minnetonka, Minn. [#419s Coquina 2nd], and a 23ft. cat-yawl to Conanicut Park [#424s Wraith]; while the 30ft. centerboard Edith M. [#426s] was launched." (Source: Anon. "Yacht News Notes." Forest and Stream, June 30, 1892, p. 621.)

"THE complete superiority of Americans as yacht builders does not depend upon races for the America's Cup for demonstration. Lord Dunraven has been as thoroughly and satisfactorily beaten in the smaller classes as he has been with his ninety-foot boats. The yachting season of 1895, which was one of the most notable In the history of the sport, has clearly demonstrated two things:
1. That the greatest yacht-builders of the world are the Herreshoffs, of Rhode Island, and
2. That the day of 'big boats' is about over, and future yacht races will be chiefly between much smaller yachts than Defender [#452s] and Valkyrie III. ...
The success achieved by Herreshoff boats in England has been phenomenal. For the first season or two they have always beaten their competitors badly in their respective classes. Then John Bull, who is nothing if not persistent, has gone to work turning out boat after boat until he has finally succeeded in equaling those of the Yankee wizard, and in some instances in the smaller classes has proved that he has bettered the instruction and is ready for a new lesson, which it may be said Herreshoff stands prepared to administer whenever somebody gives him the order.
It was with the little fin keel half-rater Wee Winn [#425s], built for Miss Winifred Sutton in 1892, that Herreshoff first astonished British yacht-designers. It took them two years to turn out anything that could beat her. Her fair owner is a sister of the late Sir Richard Sutton, who tried for the America's cup with the Genesta, but found the Puritan a trifle too fast for him. It was natural, therefore, that his sister should send to Yankee land when she was seeking for a sure winner. ...
A half-rater, it should be understood, is a mere midget of a yacht, average about fifteen feet on the water. Those who witnessed the races between Ethelwynn and the British half-rater Spruce IV, will appreciate the fact that any woman who undertakes to sail one of them must be both skillful and plucky. But there are many women in England who are experts at the tiller and race their little craft against those owned by men in all sorts of weather, receiving no allowance on account of their sex and often crossing the finish line first.
In this respect they are a way ahead of their American sisters. They won't be so long, though, judging by the way American girls are going in for all kinds of out-door sports. ...
Great is Herreshoff and great will he continue to be. And any Britisher who wants a boat that will beat any boat of her class afloat can get one from him. Give him the cash and he will do the rest." (Source: Anon. "Our Yachts Lead The World. This Year's Record Shows How They Won in All Classes. Beat Englishmen in England. Here Are Some American-Built Yachts Even More Remarkable For Speed Than Defender." New York World, November 17, 1895, p. 28.)

Other Modern Text Source(s)

"... The season of 1892 will also be remembered by the success of the little Herreshoff boat, 'Wee Winn,' in the 1-rating class. ...
Although 'Gareth' [designed by Nicholson in 1892] was the best boat of the year [1893 in the 2 1/2-rater class], 'Meneen' [#438s] a Herreshoff production, made a great name as a light weather flier, and created quite as much sensation as did the Herreshoff 1-rater 'Wee Winn,' [#425s] in the previous season.
On the Clyde an interesting class of 2-raters continued in fashion, but 'Wenonah' [#415s] the American crack, still held the sway.
The Herreshoff boats about this period played an important part in British waters, for Miss Sutton's 'Morwena' [#431s] more than held her own against the Solent fleet of 1-raters, of which the Payne-designed 'Sacharissa,' and the Sibbick-designed 'Tartar' were the most conspicuous. The little American fliers were very light displacement craft, and their success to a great extent precipitated the introduction of the 'pram' bow in our waters, as this was a prominent feature in all the Herreshoff designs. ...
In [1894 in] the 2 1/2- and 1-rating classes it is curious to note that British designers, having made a study of light displacement craft, turned out some boats that could completely outsail the representatives from Mr. Herreshoff's board, 'Vaquero' [#453s] 2 1/2-rater. and 'Lagopa,' [#454s] 1-rater, that were shipped across the Atlantic to compete in Solent waters. The Sibbick 2 1/2-rater 'Lorette,' which, as an all-round performer, was about on a par with 'Gareth,' and Mr. Nicholson's 1895 production [p. 415] 'Corolla,' met 'Vaquero,' the Herreshoff boat, five times, defeated her on four occasions, and was some distance ahead when she took the ground during the fifth match. ..." (Source: Henry Charles Howard Earl of Suffolk and Berkshire (ed.). The Encyclopaedia of Sport & Games - Volume 4. London, 1911, p. 414-415.)

Archival Documents

"N/A"

"[Item Transcription:] [Handwritten (in ink) rating rule summary and description of the competition written apparently to inform NGH prior to the design of #425s WEE WINN (which was contracted for by Cochraine for Winifed Sutton):] 1/2 Rater under English rule
(Length Load water line * Sail area)/6000 = Rating
In present 1/2 Raters Length L.W.L. varies from 15ft 6in to 17ft 3in, beam at water line 4ft to 6/7[ft].
Draught of water must not exceed 3 fee exclusive of centreboard (that is to say the centre board does not count in any way). These boats have either transom or counter, and stem as sketched.
The tendency is to increase length, and consequently diminish sail area, and displacement, and stability is secured by either a lead fin of say 10 to 12 cwt, or by live ballast, but this latter type is objectionable & would not suit me.
They are carvel built, generally mahogany, several[?] cedar or spruce, decked nearly all over, only a small well or cockpit for about 6ft long by 3 wide.
Planking is from 1/2in from saw[?] only[?] & decks laid in as broadplanks as may be & all as light as possible.
Rudder sometimes balance, of metal.
The boats are normally varnished, but the sides must be very smooth, & a strand of cotton between planking to keep tight. You may probably have some more [p. 2] suitable & lighter woods than mahogany which is too heavy. Rig generally light & small jib but this is often altered. The boats are exceedingly handy and safe and are raced a good deal single handed. I enclose material of which sails are normally made. They have no bowsprits to speak of & the jib is set on jib boom to be used as spinnaker, the jib boom hanging on fore side of mast. There is generally a short & choppy sea in Solent as tides are strong & a good sea boat is a necessity. Probably a boat 18ft long on waterline with fine lines on the keel principle would be bad to beat only the difficult is to keep the lead in the middle of boat as they are liable to lose way if the lead is too much fore & aft. Booms must have plenty of top to keep clear of water. The gooseneck a spider band is about 15in above deck.
Faithfully ... [With 3 sketches of 'Fin type', 'Keel type', and 'centerboard type'.]" (Source: Cochrane, Blair. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDW02_03450. Folder [no #]. No date (1892-06 ?).)


"[Item Description:] Congratulations from England on the success of your 2 1/2 rater on the Clyde [#415s WENONAH] and the beautiful half-rater on the Solent #425s WEE-WIN, compared to our boats she is handsome, was talking to Lord Brassey about our model club, I advised him if he wanted a champion to go to Herreshoff, I am only a working man but I yield to no man in my love for all that is beautiful in yachts and ships." (Source: Lear, H. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_45760. Correspondence, Folder 100. 1892-10-01.)


"[Item Transcription:] [On 'Hotel Bristol, Berlin, Unter den Linden' stationery:] Berlin, den 26th [no month] 1894
My dear Mr Herreshoff
Through the kindness of Captain [Hank] Haff and his son Clayton I again embarked on the 'VIGILANT' in the race of August month[?] off Cowes but[?], of course as usual had a most inspiring good time.
It was the second day of the R.Y. I. regatta the Thursday of Cowes week and the meeting of the two rivals after the BRITTANNIA[sic] defeat in the race [p. 2] around the isle, when both yachts distinguished themselves in a wind-jamming contest upon the rocks.
The race on buoy 8 was fastformed[?], you remember to enable the 'BRITTANNIA' to haul out and fix bottom' a privilege which the 'VIGILANT' [#437s] did not allow herself and perhaps unfortunately as results proved for ever so little a rock-rub[?] seems to endanger the balance between the chances of two much closer rivals.
There was a cracking breeze blowing directly up [p. 3] the Solent, and both yachts started under jack-yarders, mainsail, jib and staysail close-hauled westward to East Lepe[?] buoy.
But as usual Haff was caught napping and swung across the line with the 'BRITTANNIA' luffing dean in the wind, and bore away on the port tack 10 yards under the lee of his rival. Of course it was very close work on both boats, and we all worked fiercely at the head-sails to remedy our error and get [p. 4] about and away from out the grasp of our quick-handling rival.
But though we Norwegians, heterogeneous lot that we were tumbled over each other like fiends beneath the glance of Mr. Iselin, in our eagerness, yet there stood the Briton handled by as magnificent a British crew as ever trod deck 'fasted squarely on our head-sails.'
And[?] this position, the result of our gun[?] starts is quite where Carter[?] [p. 5] wanted us to be placed and there we were handily kept until we turned the E. Lepe[?], when he was far ahead of us on a flowing tide.
I cannot accurately tell why we were not the faster that day. In running the hurricane[?] boat[?] always went like a mad-horse. But in close windward work we were no match for 'BRITTANNIA' and clever Carter. We perhaps outfooted her when hauled by the wind, and certainly on the [p. 6] last leg of the course to the finish-line when we gained about w minutes.
But we never could out-wind the slippery Briton. If he ever found us working out from his lee he always bore down on us to blanket.
Of course that made Haff and Iselin nervous, but what could they do? For when we again settled down to luffing away creeped the Briton to windward again and what made us all so mad was that [p. 7] there was a cracking wind aloft, and we were expected to win by on shore.
I believe myself if you will allow me to venture an opinion, that the removal of many tons (I believe 3 or 4) of ballast, and the heavy anchor and chain the previous night was a big mistake. For we didn't Carry our club topsail at all easily, while 'BRITTANNIA' was as stiff as Captain Lawless' flag pole, and her sails were a [p. 8] sight to see. Twice did our sails fail --- our staysail broke at the clew twice, and one spinnaker tore itself loose in a mad run to leeward. But this was not because we didn't want to win, or misled[?] to with withdraw (as honest Captain Lawless was proverbially supposed to do in the FELICITE[?] sloop).
Mrs Iselin was on board with us, and the Prince and the [p. 9] Duke of York on the BRITTANNIA. Mr Iselin's present on the boat was salutary, he put a good deal of energy into matters didn't swear once and stopped unnecessary talking. He vastly improved the 'esprit DE corps' and harmonized under his leadership the actions of Jeffrey Diaper and young Haff. I do believe [p. 10] Mr Herreshoff, that Haff has not been well supported by good under officers and a trained crew. You will pardon my presumption in criticising. But outside of the fail[?] of waters, climate, conditions, lack of knowledge of British methods of yacht racing, it seems to me that the VIGILANT measured[?] by a raw[?] crew, as she is, can be perhaps justly pardoned her defeats.
[p. 11] Englishmen themselves are a but surprised at her defeats for the wholesome defeat administered by the little Bristol boats the 'WEE WINN' [#425s], 'MORWENA' [#431s], 'WENONAH' [#415s] and 'DACOTAH' [#440s] have sunk deep in their hearts.
That they still fear the VIGILANT is evidenced by the tendency to still receive the BRITANNIA virtuous[?] as indecisive.
[XII] If you will kindly show this to Mr Charles [Herreshoff, Jr.?] as I think he will be interested.
Please tell Mr. Lewis [Herreshoff] whose article in the Badminton Library has attracted much attention and which I have read that little Mr Wilson [sailmaker] of New York begs to take exception to his remarks about the American sail-making as compared with Lapthorne. I had much amusement with him on this head. With best wishes
I am Sincerely yours ...
Lucian Sharpe
Muuwex[?] Cie[?] Paris" (Source: Sharpe, Lucien, Jr. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_00840. Correspondence, Folder 1_14, formerly 239. 1894- ??-24.)


"[Item Transcription:] [Handwritten (in ink) letter on '21, Clarendon Road, Holland Park. W.' stationery:] London
Dear Mr. Herreshoff,
I was sorry not to have met you at Kingstown about the one rater for my friend Charles Tyrevlit[?] Ricardo, Esq.
Secretary of Upper Thames Sailing Club
Bourne End, Bucks, England (The Club has 3 Challenge Cups ...)
Private address Raymead, Maidenhead, Berks.
He has only returned from a long cruiser of over 3wo[?] months, through Holland to Friesland & Amsterdam via Calais, Dunkerque, Bruges, Ghent & Rotterdam. [p. 2]
I enclose all the data from Mr. E. T. Ricardo. Photos of present boats, or Lines from Head of the 'Challenge' which is the fastest ... [unreadable]
Please address your business letters to Mr. Ricardo as he will pay you ... in the meantime let me congratulate you on the great success of DAKOTA 10rater [#440s] on the Clyde ... [p. 3] fine one rater sailed by Miss Sutton WENONAH 2 1/2 [#415s] now GUDRUDA and the mauery[?] little WEEWINN 1/2 rater [#425s] - a very lovely little craft indeed.
Last night I was dining with Mr. Howard Gould when we had a great chat about the season's racing. I have been sailing in CARINA 40 & sailed one race in VIGILANT [#437s] at Dartmouth. Start Y[acht] Club in a dead calm [p. 4]
The lines of VIG[ILANT] are very beautiful and it was most unfortunate that just when most wanted the 'centreboard' was wound to be ;on strike'. You have no idea how this was regretted & much sympathy was felt for Mr. G. Gould. Asking your king interest in this one-rater, smooth water with much 'Hard a Sea'
I remain
Yours truly
Robt. T. Pritchett [marine artist]
[With separate sheet:]
Rating - we would suggest that she rate not less than .8 or more than .9 so that she would derive the greatest benefit from the crew of three up to windward. .8 is chosen as the lowest rating as H.M. The Queen's Challenge Cup is only open to boats of .8 and over.
Length of course 6 to 9 miles, generally a run and a turn to windward. [p. 2]
Distinguishing no. of Boats in Photographs: ...
Dimensions ... [p. 3]
Notes.
Planking ...
Ballast ...
Draft ...
Deck ...
Mast & Spars ... [p. 4]
Water smooth, no sea, must be very quick in stays, as river[?] is extremely narrow in parts, wind moderate.
Boat wanted solely for Racing purposes.
Price ? delivered in London.
Must be delivered not later than March 1, 1895. [With sketches of AILEEN, MONA and MIRAGE & FOLLY type on separate sheet of paper. With clipping from 'The Field, The County Gentleman's Newspaper' from July 7, 1894, p. 31 titled 'The Challenge 1-Rater' as well as clipping from 'The Field, The County Gentleman's Newspaper' from July 28, 1894, p. 157 titled 'Sorceress 1-Rater'. Incl. envelope from Pritchett to NGH in Bristol." (Source: Pritchett, Robert Taylor. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDW02_03040. Folder [no #]. 1894-09-18.)


Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #425s Wee Winn [Wee Win] even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.


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Registers

1895 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Henry C. Sutton (12 St. John's Park, Ryde, I. of W.); Club(s): Alb. Bem.S. Isl. Mna. Svw. Vic.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.39
Sailmaker Woodnutt; Sails made in [18]95; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Rating = 0.49
Not listed in 1893 and 1894 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.

1900 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Henry C. Sutton (12 St. John's Park, Ryde, I. of W.); Club(s): Alb. Bem. Cst. Isl. Svw. Vic.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [18]97; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1905 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Henry C. Sutton (Holdcroft, Blunsdon, Highworth, Wilts.); Club(s): Bem. Cst. Isl. Svw. Vic.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [18]97; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1907 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Henry C. Sutton (Holdcroft, Blunsdon, Highworth, Wilts.); Club(s): Bem. Cst. Isl. Vic.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [18]97; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1908 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: B. O. Cochrane (Oakleigh, St. John's Park, Ryde, I.W.); Club(s): Bem. Isl. Svw. Vic.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39
In 1895 Wee Winn's current and previous owners, B. O. Cochrane and H.C. Sutton had been listed as owners of the new Fife, jun. designed 5-rater Contest.

1910 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: B. O. Cochrane (Oakleigh, St. John's Park, Ryde, I.W.); Club(s): Bem. Isl. Svw. Vic.(R.C.); Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1915 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Blair O. Cochrane (Oakleigh, St. John's Park, Ryde, I.W.); Club(s): Bem.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1920 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4912)
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Blair O. Cochrane (Oakleigh, St. John's Park, Ryde, I.W.); Club(s): Bem.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1925 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#6347)
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Blair O. Cochrane (Westhill, Bembridge, I.W.); Club(s): Bem. Red.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]23; Sail Area 180.8
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Note: Lin[ear] R[ating] 17.39

1926 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#6558)
Name: Wee Win
Owner: B. O. Cochrane (Westhill, Bembridge, I.W.); Club(s): Bem. Red.; Port: Bembridge, I.W.
Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sloop
Tons Gross 1; LWL 16.5; Extr. Beam 4.6
Sailmaker Ratsey & Lapthorn; Sails made in [19]25; Sail Area 180
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1892
Not listed in 1927 and subsequent Lloyd's Register U.K. Blair O. Cochrane was Commodore of the Redwing Club in Bembridge, Isle of Wight, in 1926

2007 WoodenBoat Register
Name: Wee Win
Owner: Herreshoff Marine Museum; Port: Bristol, RI ; Port of Registry: Bristol, RI
Type & Rig Fin keel sloop, Half-rater
LOA 23-10; LWL 16-3; Extr. Beam 4-6; Draught 3-0
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N.G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol RI; Built when 1892

Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.

Supplement

From the 1920 and earlier HMCo Index Cards at the MIT Museum
  • Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass.
From the 1931 HMCo-published Owner's List

Name: Wee Winn
Type: J & M
Length: 16'3"
Owner: Cochran, Blair

Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. "A Partial List of Herreshoff Clients." In: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. Herreshoff Yachts. Bristol, Rhode Island, ca. 1931.

From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
  • Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff

Name: Wee Winn
Type: fin keel half rater
Owner: Blair Cochran
Row No.: 753

Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.

From the 2000 (ca.) Transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Vermilya/Bray

Month: Feb
Day: 22
Year: 1892
E/P/S: S
No.: 0425
Name: Wee Win
LW: 16' 3"
B: 4' 6"
D: 3' 0"
Rig: J & M
K: FK
Ballast: Lead
Amount: 525.00
Notes Constr. Record: Biddeford, Eng.
Last Name: Cochrane
First Name: Blair

Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.

Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.

Research Note(s)

"Exported to England." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. May 2, 2008.)

"Sisters Winifred (#425s Wee Winn) and Maud (#431s Morwena) Sutton were daughters of Sir Richard Sutton, who had unsuccessfully challenged for the America's Cup with his cutter Genesta in 1885. Both were extremely successful with their respective boats, Winifred dominating her class on the Solent in 1892 and Maud achieving the same on the Clyde in 1893." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. November 12, 2018.)

"Built in 115 days (contract to launch; equivalent to $5/day, 10 lbs displacement/day)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. January 16, 2024.)

"Displ. 1317lbs from a preliminary calculation in NGH design booklet entry dated March 6, 1892." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. September 17, 2014.)

"Donated by Jonathan Janson to the Herreshoff Marine Museum in 1984." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 8, 2012.)

Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.

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