Herreshoff #188004es Alice
Particulars
Type: Catboat
Designed by: NGH
Launch: 1880-10-12
Construction: Wood
LOA: 21' 2" (6.45m)
LWL: 21' 1" (6.43m)
Beam: 9' 6" (2.90m)
Draft: 2' 2" (0.66m)
Rig: Cat
Built for: Herreshoff, Charles F. Jr.
Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.
Model
Model location: H.M.M. Workshop North Wall Left a
Vessels from this model:
1 built, modeled by NGH
Original text on model:
"ALICE
Launched Oct 12 1880 - 6 00 pm" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)
Related model(s):
Model 0511 by NGH (1882?); #188201es Alice
Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.
Drawings
List of drawings:
Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
Herreshoff #188004es Alice are listed in bold.
Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
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Dwg 096-005 (HH.5.07961): Sails > Sails for C. F. Herreshoff Jr. (1880-09-25)
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.
Documents
Nathanael G. Herreshoff
"[1887-05-30] Mon 30: NEaster breaking this morning. Ch[anging] to southerly by noon. Race at F[all] R[iver]. Alice [#188004es] won, beating Test [owned by C. H. Hathaway of Dighton, see 1887-05-30 newspaper clipping at HMM] & Buzzards Bay boats.
[1890-06-22] Sun 22: Rain last night. Fine at midnight. Had trial of old [#18804es?] and new [#405s] Alice." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1887 to 1890. Manuscript (excerpts). Herreshoff Marine Museum Collection.)
"Coconut Grove Feb 10 1926. {1926/02/10} N. G. Herreshoff Bristol, R. I. Dear Francis, ... Sprite was easily the fastest and best cat boat in Narragansett Bay. and even when 25 years old [in 1884], she was an even match for Uncle Charles 1st Alice. which was a foot longer. and was making a clean record in her racing. - having 9 first prizes in 8 races sailed." (Source: Mystic Seaport Museum, L. Francis Herreshoff Collection, Box 17, Folder 2: Letter from N. G. Herreshoff to L. F. Herreshoff.)
"I modeled and superintended building a twenty-one foot catboat for my brother Charles in 1881 [sic, i.e. 1880 (#188004es Alice) or 1882 (188201es Alice)?], named ALICE, and I sailed her for him in several of her races. In all the time he owned her, she was never beaten." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Some of the Boats I Have Sailed In." Written 1934. In: Pinheiro, Carlton J. (ed.). Recollections and Other Writings by Nathanael G. Herreshoff. Bristol, 1998, p. 54.)
Other Herreshoff Family
"Another well-known cat was ALICE, 1879; she took twelve first prizes out of eleven starts during her first year, in one race there having been two prizes offered." (Source: Herreshoff, Lewis. Yachting in America. In: Sullivan, Sir Edward. Yachting, The Badminton Library of Sports and Pastimes. London, 1894.)
Other Contemporary Text Source(s)
"Mr Harry C Munro
To Charles F. Herreshoff, Jr. Dr. [for Lucian[sic] Sharp[sic] Jr)
For 1 Cat Boat known as (Alice). Said Boat 21ft long and built by me Oct 12, 1880, together with the Mast - Sail - Boom - Gaff - Sweep - 1 Brass pump = 1 Wooden Pail - 1 Anchor & Cable also about 1500 lbs Lead.
$150
Received payment
C.A. Herreshoff Jr
For Lucian Sharp." (Source: Herreshoff, Charles F. Jr. Correspondence (receipt) to Munro, Harry C. (for Sharpe, Lucien, Jr.). Herreshoff Marine Museum Library Rare Books Room (Box 1), Folder [no #] (new). Acc. no. 89.55. December 19, 1898.
Archival Documents
"[Item Description:] Penciled table titled 'Cat Boat' and 'Sail' listing dimensions (Deck, Waterline, [unclear], Sail head, hoist, foot) for ALICE [#186807es or #188004es ?], JULIA [#187004es], NORA [?], JESSIE, SPRING GREEN [#186709es], THORN, THISTLE, GRACIE, HOPE, HATTIE, NELLIE, ALPHIN, ROBROY, SUTTON, NO 5, EMMA, RAMBLER, and REINDEER. On verso calculations. Compare with MRDE08_03050 which shows a similar table under same title and on same paper and is certainly related." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE05_01710. Folder [no #]. No date (1870s ?).)
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"[Item Description:] Prizes won by the [#188004es] ALICE, 1881 May 30th Regatta at Fall River, Silver Cup Value $25, 1881 July 25 Regatta at Bristol Silver Water [?] Value $50 Sail measurement $15, 1882 July 4 Regatta at Bristol, ...etc'" (Source: Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28570. Note. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1881 - 1882.)
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"[Item Description:] Newspaper clipping from an unknown newspaper, penciled date Sept 13, 1881, titled 'The Sailing Regatta. A Great Day for Yachtsmen and Lovers of Aquatic Sports', reporting about the regatta at Rocky Point round the Plum Beach Point or around Hope Island for third-class boats, some of the boats mentioned were Jos. True's SPRITE [unclear if #186001es], C. F. Herreshoff's JULIA [#187004es], and C. F. Herreshoff's ALICE [#188004es] [Note: the regatta took place on Sept 13, 1881, but the newspaper was published Sept 14, 1881]." (Source: Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28670. Newspaper Clipping. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1881-09-14.)
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"[Item Description:] Newspaper clipping from an unknown newspaper, penciled date Sept 15, 1881, titled 'The Rocky Point Regatta. KITTY, RAMBLER, ALICE, IDEAL AND RARUS WINNERS', reporting about corrections made to the previously reported regatta results, 'The third race, which was also in doubt, and which the judges could not decide without considerable trouble, is awarded to the ALICE [#188004es], of Bristol, the Second prize going to the IDEAL, of Somerset, and the third to the RARUS'." (Source: Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28680. Newspaper Clipping. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1881-09-15.)
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"[Item Description:] Clipping from an unknown newspaper [Providence Journal?], titled 'A Very Successful Regatta, describing the Memorial Day regatta held under the auspices of the Warwick Yacht Club, among the participants was the 21.00ft boat ALICE [#188004es or #188201es?], undated." (Source: Providence Journal (?) (creator). Newspaper Clipping. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28840. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. No date (mid-1880s ?).)
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"[Item Description:] Clipping from an unknown newspaper [Providence Journal?], titled 'Providence and Vicinity. Regatta off Pawtuxet', among the participants were the winning C. F. Herreshoff with the 21.04ft catboat ALICE [#188004es or #188201es?] and J. B. Herreshoff with the 20.03ft catboat SPRIGHT [sic, i.e. #186001es SPRITE], labeled in pencil 'Aug 30, 1886'." (Source: Providence Journal (?) (creator). Newspaper Clipping. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28800. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1886-08-30.)
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"[Item Description:] Clipping from an unknown newspaper [Providence Journal?], titled 'Regatta On Mt. Hope Bay. Opening The Yachting Season At Fall River. MIGNON, ATALANTA, [#188004es or #188201es?] ALICE AND BERTHA Winners.', labeled in pencil 'May 31, 1887'." (Source: Providence Journal (?) (creator). Newspaper Clipping. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28760. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1887-05-31.)
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"[Item Description:] Herewith please find my check No. 2692 for $657.75 in payment for your bill of 1st inst., which return receipted and much oblige. [This possibly reflects a payment for #188004es ALICE.]" (Source: Sharpe, Lucian. Letter to Herreshoff, Charles F., Jr. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28510. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1888-06-04.)
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"[Item Description:] Two invoices from Charles F. Herreshoff, Jr., one to L. Sharpe, Jr. 'for Care and Painting ALICE [#188004es?]' etc, the other to Smith Dexter 'for Care & Painting VENONA', together with envelope from Brown & Sharpe to CFH Jr." (Source: Herreshoff, Charles F. Correspondence (invoice) to Sharpe, L. Jr. and Smith, Dexter. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28530. Subject Files, Folder 18, formerly 126. 1889-05-27.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Handwritten (in ink and pencil) experiments and trials booklet titled 'Herreshoff Mfg. Co. Experiments 1884 to 1889. N.G. Herreshoff'. Relevant contents:
§5: Race for Cat Boats between #187004es JULIA IV, #188004es ALICE, #186001es SPRITE and #188210es NORA [?]. 'Prize awarded to ALICE.' (1884-04-07)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Trials Booklet. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE07_03520. Folder [no #]. 1884-05 to 1890-05.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Handwritten (in ink and pencil) trials booklet 'Herreshoff Mfg. Co. Experiments & Trial Trips. 1890. N.G. Herreshoff'. Relevant contents:
§13: Trial Race between Alice Cat [#188004es] and Alice Yawl [#405s] (1890-06-22)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Trials Booklet. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE07_02260. Folder [no #]. 1890-01 to 1898-08.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Mr Harry C Munro
To Charles F. Herreshoff, Jr. Dr. [for Lucian[sic] Sharp[sic] Jr)
For 1 Cat Boat known as (ALICE) [#188004es]. Said Boat 21ft long and built by me Oct 12, 1880, together with the Mast - Sail - Boom - Gaff - Sweep - 1 Brass pump = 1 Wooden Pail - 1 Anchor & Cable also about 1500 lbs Lead.
$150
Received payment
C.A. Herreshoff Jr
For Lucian Sharp" (Source: Herreshoff, Charles F. Jr. Correspondence (receipt) to Munro, Harry C. (for Sharpe, Lucien, Jr.). Herreshoff Marine Museum Collection Acc. 89.55. HMM Library Rare Books Room (Box 1), Folder [no #]. 1898-12-19.)
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Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #188004es Alice even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.
Further Reading
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Grayson, Stan. Herreshoff Catboats. The Roots of a Boatbuilding Dynasty." Wooden Boat #289, November/December 2022, p. 58-67. (1,855 kB)
Document is copyrighted: Yes. Detailed, well-written story about Herreshoff catboats, from early boats such as Sprite and the four Julias which were all built before the founding off the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company to the numerous small catboats like Dandelion and Bluebell, many of which were delivered to Boston yachtsmen and most of which were also built before the founding of HMCo to the later, often very extreme and rule-beating catboats such as Wanda. With some minor errors, not all Julias were keelboats, Dexter Stone was from Philadelphia and not just a local yachtsman, Peri was not built for W. Starling Burgess, and Bluebell was built for Ed. Burgess with no proof that this was Edward Burgess.
Registers
1896 Manning's American Yacht List (#475)
Name: Alice
Owner: Sharpe Bros. [sic, i.e. apparently Lucian and Henry Sharpe]; Club(s): 51 [Rhode Island]; Port: Nayatt Point, R. I.
Type & Rig CB Cabin Cat
LOA 21.4; LWL 21.1; Extr. Beam 9.8; Draught 2.2
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1880 Oct.
1896 Who Won (#185)
Name: Alice
Owner: L. Sharp & Bro. [sic, i.e. apparently Lucian and Henry Sharpe]; Club(s): 102; Port: Providence, R.I.
Type & Rig Cat
LOA 21.1; LWL 21.1; Extr. Beam 9.6; Draught 2.2
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. F. [sic] Herreshoff; Built when 1880
Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.
Supplement
From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
- Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff
Name: Alice
Type: 21.1 cabin cat
Owner: Sharpe Brothers
Year: 1880
Row No.: 22
Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.
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