Herreshoff #191109es [Unbuilt 15mR Boat]
Particulars
Type: Fifteen-Meter
Designed by: NGH
Not built, not assigned, cancelled, etc.: 1911-9
Construction: Wood
LWL: 50' (15.24m)
Keel: yes
Built for: [Eastern Yacht Club Members]
Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.
Model
Model location: H.M.M. Workshop West Wall Right
Vessels from this model:
0 built, modeled by NGH
Original text on model:
"IYRU 15 Meter Class Scale 1/2" Oct 30, 1911" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)
Related model(s):
Model 1319 by NGH (1911); sail, not built
Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.
Documents
Archival Documents
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"[Item Description:] new class of boats [#191109es Unbuilt 15mR Boat] for George Baker, Chester Rumrill, Earl Dodge and Pynchon, only if #663s ISTALENA can be sold, would HMCo take her in part payment?" (Source: Pynchon, George M. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_24110. Correspondence, Folder 70. 1911-08-18.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled table titled 'Comparison of 55 Rating' and listing data for o.a., w.l., q.b.l., L, B, d and four rating-related terms for SHIMNA [#694s], 'Proposed (1)', 'Proposed (2)', 'Proposed (3)', and '65 Rating ISTALENA [#663s]'. (This is probably for #191109es Unbuilt 15mR Boat which NGH started to design in September 1911.)" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_01330. Folder [no #]. No date (1911-09 ?).)
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"[Item Transcription:] Re new class of boats [#191109es Unbuilt 15mR?] for next season: Mr. Baker has shown me the specifications of the new boats and I sincerely hope the new class will go through succcessfully. I am sorry that I could not join them, as I am above all things, a racing man and would like to be in a class of that sort, which I am sure will last for a number of years. The boats, however, are too small for my purposes and perhaps it would be just as well for the sport, to keep our present [New York 57] class intact, if possible, and thus have both classes racing next year, which with the big schooners, would make the most active yachting year the New York Yacht Club has ever known.
I am glad you got the business and wish you all success with it.
Are the new boats to be exactly like [#694s] SHIMNA?
I am sorry you had so much trouble in hauling out 'ISTALENA' [#663s]. I should think it would pay you to do a little dredging down in the cove, and with a little heavier cradle. I have been with you now for so many years that I do not like to go elsewhere." (Source: Pynchon, George M. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_27980. Subject Files, Folder 11. 1911-09-18.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections titled '55 Rating. 53ft w.l. [#191109es] From finished model [Model 1319]. Oct 3, 1911'. With calculations to determine rating and wetted surface. Also, a separate block of calculations 'Oct 1926 [for #192607es Unbuilt 55ft LWL Class]. At scale of 3/8in per ft - 16/12. Length O.a. 101.5. Length l.w.l. 70.6, Length q.b.l. 66.4. Beam 20.8. Breadth 19.45. Draft 13.75. Rule limit 13.05. Free board 4.00. Displacement 3100[cuft?] = 14.58^3. Wetted surface 1600sqft'. With note in lower right corner 'International rater, over'. On verso, more calculations titled 'International rating. L+B+1/2G+3d+1/3sq-rt(S)-F' and arriving at an rating of 55.02." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_01050. Folder [no #]. 1911-10-03.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Thank you very much for your letter regarding the possibilities of the fifteen metre boat [#191109es Unbuilt 15mR], and the statistics furnished concerning same. I have spoken to only one person so far, and he seemed very favorably impressed. I am now going to write to Mr. Clark, Commodore of the Eastern Yacht Club, who expressed a willingness to me, a year ago, to build one of these boats, and I have no doubt I shall have a reply from him before long. I am then going to broach the matter in New York.
In the meantime, I have to make an address before the Eastern Yacht Club on my general impressions of the sonder boats and the sonder boat races at Kiel, last summer. I would like a memorandum of the proposed restrictions that you and I looked over the other day for that type of boat, and which you sent, I think, at my request, to Charlie Adams a year ago. I am, as you know, very much opposed to the present type of sonder boats, and wish to tell them about the plan which you suggested a year ago, of building a new boat to take over, under your proposed rules, but which I did not dare to do until we had gone over and defeated the other boats. [See also #191009es and #191010es Unbuilt Improved Sonder Boats.]" (Source: Emmons, Robert W. (incl NGH reply). Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_28000. Subject Files, Folder 11. 1911-10-18.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections titled 'I.Y.R.U. 15 meter Class (49 1/2ft) [#191109es Unbuilt 15mR]. Scale 1/2in. 50 w.l. Oct 30, 1911. From finished model'. With rating calculations for both European Rating (Meter Rule) and American Rating (Universal Rule). Other calculations show a total displacement of 1388cuft and a wetted surface of 817[sqft?]. " (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_01040. Folder [no #]. 1911-10-30.)
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