HMCo #867s Ventura

"[1921-06-27] Mon 27: ... Mr. Baker gave contract for cruising aux[iliary] sloop [Ventura #867s].
[1921-07-09] Sat 9: Thunder storm early. Started in Helianthus [#378p] for first cruise at 12:40. Fog & rain, so put into Newport. Have Ann, Agnes, Griswold & Henrietta. Boat [is] in unfinished state, but going to Glen Cove to meet Com[modore] Baker [to discuss design of #867s Ventura].
[1921-07-11] Mon 11: Fog & mist. L[igh]t E [wind]. Leave [at] 9:27. Run over to Greenwich & anchor. Get provisions. Leave about 3:30 for Glen Cove. Mr. Baker alongside for talk [probably to discuss design of #867s Ventura]. ...
[1923-03-30] Fri 30: ... Mr. Baker's 'Ventura' [#867s] [was] launched & [is] fitting [out] for [an] early cruise.
[1925-04-05] Sun 5: Had a call from Mr Greenough [for whom NGH will design #193303es Skylark in 1933] in p.m. He is here to join Mr. Baker to cruise in 'Ventura' [#867s] which arrived a week ago.
[1925-04-06] Mon 6: Very fine [in] a.m. In p.m. sailed [apparently with #907s Pleasure] to see Mr. Baker & Ventura [#867s] --- taking Commodore & Wirth Munroe, Ann & Margaret Nystrom. While at [the] Club landing a squall filled 'Pleasure' with sand, then a rain, making a mess." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1921 to 1925. Manuscript (excerpts). Diary access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff.)

"June 1921. 86 [#867s].
Frame spacing 14 1/2.
Notes. Keel has been changed to 3 1/2" thick with upper surface flush with inside of planking i.e. projecting 1 3/8" below rabbate.
Make the half breadth of upper surface of deadwood which fayes to keel 3/8" less than half breadth of rabbate.
Run sectional lines of deadwood straight to half breadth give[n?] at bottom." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G.? [Handwriting appears different.] [Penciled notes in Offset Booklet HH.4.162.] June 1921. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection, MIT Museum, Cambridge, MA.)

"March 13, 1922
Power Trial of #876 [sic, i.e #867s]
Auxiliary cruiser for Mr. Geo. S. Baker
Length o.a. 60ft-6 1/2in. W.l. 45ft- 1 1/4in
beam [blank]
draft [blank]
Engine J.V.B., 4 cyl., 4 cyc., 4 3/4in x 6in
Propeller 2 bl[ade] 28in x 20in, folding type.
Trial on upper half mile of Popasquash course, low tide, wind about 10 miles p. h., SW. [Followed by tabulated trial run data with best mean speed being 9.12mph]." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. Handwritten note in Experiments Booklet '1911 Trial Trips and Experiments' under date of March 13, 1922. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum.)

" 'Ventura,' was designed and built for George F. Baker, Jr., for cruising and shooting in southern and shallow waters. She was sixty feet seven inches overall, forty-five feet water line, fourteen feet beam, and four feet draft, and she is still in good condition and a remarkably comfortable cruiser with considerable speed on a reach." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. The Wizard of Bristol. The Life and Achievements of Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, together with An Account of Some of the Yachts he Designed. New York, 1953, p. 306-307.)

"Tallahassee, Fla.
Horse Shoe Plantation
Dear Mr. Herreshoff
I am so pleased to hear from you that you yourself will design the boat [#867s VENTURA] I have suggested. I know it is a departure from existing types, but I believe it is a type that might become popular. Of course I shall be much guided by your judgment, so that if I have made impractical suggestions I know you will tell me. What I want is a boat with as little 'yacht' fixings as possible, a boat that can be run with two paid hands, always bearing in mind that there would be on board a cruise at least one amateur who was not afraid of work.
I trust you are well this winter, and with best wishes, believe me ..." (Source: Baker, George, F. [Letter to Nathanael G. Herreshoff.] Herreshoff Marine Museum Correspondence, Folder 56 (new). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. February 3, 1921.)

"2 Wall Street, New York.
July 13, 1921.
N. G. Herreshoff, Esq.,
Bristol, R. I.
Dear Mr. Herreshoff:
I want to tell you how much I appreciate your coming all the way to Glen Cove in order to have a talk with me. I am very glad indeed that I had the opportunity to talk with you because, my being so far away, you will have to go along pretty well on your own judgment. However, I think we covered everything.
I want you to know that I am keen about what we have developed and believe she [Ventura] will prove in most people's minds a great success. It will always be a great pleasure to me to know that you designed her and took an interest in her.
With kind regards and hoping you have a pleasant summer, I am
Yours faithfully, ..." (Source: Baker, George F. [Letter to N.G. Herreshoff.] Folder Subject: George F. Baker. Herreshoff Marine Museum Correspondence, Folder 56 (new). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. July 13, 1921.)

"2 Wall Street, New York.
September 11, 1922.
N. G. Herreshoff, Esq.,
Bristol, R. I.
Dear Mr. Herreshoff:
Thank you very much for your note and for the picture of 'Ventura', which I like. I am sorry that no time when I was on the cruise [of the New York Yacht Club] did we have a good breeze, because I believe that with a breeze where 'Ventura' could go her maximum speed she would have surprised a great many.
With kind regards,
Yours faithfully, ..." (Source: Baker, George F. [Letter to N.G. Herreshoff.] Folder Subject: George F. Baker. Herreshoff Marine Museum Correspondence, Folder 49 (new), 76 (old). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. September 11, 1922.)

"Herreshoff Manufacturing Company, Inc.
Bristol, Rhode Island.
February 16, 1922
Mr. N. G. Herreshoff, Yacht Helianthus, Miami, Fla.
Dear Mr. Herreshoff:
... Matters seem to be progressing quite satisfactorily pertaining to the work in hand, men seem to be speeding up and are becoming more efficient, the Baker [Ventura] boat has not had much work done of late, in fact there is not much to do in finishing: Mr Baker wishes to have all fittings and furnishings put on board and ready for March 1st, which will be done. ...
Regarding the Company's finances, we are getting on very well; we had in the bank on Monday of this week about $13,600.00 and bill has been sent to Mr. Baker of $2,805.00 ..." (Source: Young, C.W. (HMCo Secretary). [Letter to N.G. Herreshoff.] Herreshoff Marine Museum Subject Files, Folder [no #] (new). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. February 16, 1922.)

"Dear Mr. Herreshoff: ...
I was told by my friend Bill Greenough, who was on the Ventura in Annapolis, that he saw you when you came in there this spring. I found my shortened mast and reduced rig with the gaff wonderful for the early season that I use the boat down South, when we are apt to have heavy winds, and of course in running under power up rivers and bays with the wind against me, the shortened mast was of great advantage. As soon as I came back to home waters, however, I put in the tall spar, which I think is better than anything could be for summer work. I am just as enthusiastic about the Ventura as I ever was; in fact I like her so much that if I were going to get a new boat I could not imagine how I could improve upon Ventura for size, arrangement or anything else. I am able to take my wife and three children off for a week and make them all perfectly comfortable, and when you consider that it is a sail boat with only two paid hands, one of which is the cook, I think this is quite remarkable. ..." (Source: Baker, George, F. [Letter to Nathanael G. Herreshoff.] Herreshoff Marine Museum, Correspondence Folder 56 (new). Access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff. July 5, 1924.)

"1922. ... Herreshoff had been busy during the Winter. The 42-foot waterline auxiliary sloop Ventura [#867s], the first of the raised-deck type to be built in Rhode Island, a 6-metre sloop [#874s Cygnet], six [sic, i.e. four?] S boats [#870s Surinam, #871s Perneb, #873s Pandora, #876s and ?] and four [sic, i.e. six?] of the 12 1/2-footers [#868s, #869s Hippo, #860s, #875s, #877s, #878s] were under construction, all for out-of-State owners. ..." (Source: Davis, Jeff. Yachting in Narragansett Bay. Providence, 1946, p. 13.)

"... Stopping over at the Bristol Yacht Club on Sunday was Chester T. Reed's 60-foot auxiliary sloop 'Ventura,' whom many will remember made our town her home port for a number of years. She was en route to Oyster Bay, L. I. to be delivered for charter to her former owner George F. Baker, Jr. Mr. Reed has been mooring the Ventura at Marion, Mass. ..." (Source: Anon ("See Weed"). "Ship Shape 'n Bristol Fashion." Bristol Phoenix, July 22, 1947, p. 1.)

"942-S --- An exceptionally fine auxiliary K. & C. B. Sloop. 60'x14'x4' draft. Built by Herreshoff. Fast under sail. Double stateroom; main saloon, crew's quarters, etc. 95 hp. motor; speed 8 knots under power. [Note: Though not identified by name, the accompanying photo clearly identifies the yacht as #867s Ventura.]" (Source: Wells, John H. Marine Brokers. [For Sale.] Rudder, April 1950, p. 74.)

"[See also:] ... Series VII. Audiovisual material.
Date: 1925-1962 ...
013190246_FM_0002. Carton AV1, Aiken, 1925; Bakie, Florence, Teetee, Boy; The '99'; Miami, GFB, Sr.; Loening Amphibian (home movie) 16mm black and white silent 13:52. Date: circa 1925. Scope and Contents: This circa 1925 black & white home movie depicts children playing; scenes at a train station (probably Trenton, N.J.); people riding in horse drawn carriages and on horseback; cruising aboard the sailing yacht Ventura; and scenes of Miami, Florida.
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013190246_FM_0005. Carton AV1, 1939 Fairchild; Ventura, etc. (home movie) 16mm color silent 10:52. Date: 1939. Scope and Contents: This circa 1939 color home movie depicts a variety of scenes, including a landing seaplane; several men in a rowboat; a garden; street scenes and a golf course in Edgartown, Mass.; Baker family members sailing on the yacht Ventura; Cuttyhunk Island, Mass.; and pool and tennis scenes in Newport, R.I. ..." (Source: Anon. Baker Family. Baker Family Papers, 1768-2011: A Finding Aid. Baker Library Special Collections, Harvard Business School, Harvard University. http://oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/deliver/~bak00198, retrieved February 23, 2018.)

"George F. Baker, Jr., Ventura's owner, could, and did, own about any boat that suited his fancy, including the 217-foot steam yacht Viking. His previous Herreshoff Mfg. Co.-built boats included a New York 50 sloop, also named Ventura [#711s].
The Ventura ... was the antithesis of a New York 50, made shallow and roomy --- a special-purpose boat --- to be a shooting platform and floating lodge for Baker and his guests in the shallow haunts of Southern waterfowl. ... The stem davits are beautifully tapered steel forgings, made in the Herreshoff Mfg. Co. shops, and Ventura can be fitted with a full-headroom cockpit awning of canvas.
Ventura was built to an NGH half model made for a boat named Au Revoir [#681s] nearly two decades earlier, and that same model would be used once more when Yawlcat [#1226s] was built in the middle 1930s. Each time, it was modified by a raised sheerline or scale change. With her shallow draft and a ballast ratio of only 30 percent, Ventura is far from being a racer, but her chief virtues of comfort and utility were capitalized upon some forty years after she was built when she was converted to a nice-looking, but scarcely recognizable motorsailer." (Source: Bray, Maynard and Carlton Pinheiro. Herreshoff of Bristol. Brooklin, Maine, 1989, p. 160.)

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"[Item Description:] I am so pleased to hear from you that you yourself will design the boat [#867s VENTURA] I have suggested, I know it is a departure from existing types, but I believe it is a type that might become popular, of course I shall be much guided by your judgment, so that if I have made impractical suggestions I know you will tell me, what i want is a boat with as little 'yacht' fixings as possible, a boat that can be run with two paid hands, always bearing in mind that there would be on board a cruise at least one amateur who was not afraid of work" (Source: Baker, George F. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_20210. Correspondence, Folder 56. (1921)-02-03.)
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"[Item Description:] I want to tell you how much I appreciate your coming all the way to Glen Cove in order to have a talk with me, ..., I want you to know that I am keen about what we have developed and believe she will prove in most people's minds a great success, it will always be a great pleasure to me to know that you designed her and took an interest in her [this will be #867s VENTURA]" (Source: Baker, George F. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_20160. Correspondence, Folder 56. 1921-07-13.)
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"[Item Description:] Letter from C. W. Young to NGH with HMCo status report, launched #377p ARA, men are improving, Baker boat [#867s VENTURA], #376p ESLOMA, four payrolls enclosed, own health is improving, happy that NGH enjoys HELIANTHUS III, August Hecksher letter congratulating on small loss in these trying times, dated Feb 16, 1922; HMCo Pay Roll 248 for week ending Dec 3, 1921; HMCo Pay Roll 255 for week ending Jan 21, 1922; HMCo Pay Roll 256 for week ending Jan 28, 1922; HMCo Pay Roll 258 for week ending Feb 15, 1922" (Source: Young, Charles Wesley (Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. Secr.). Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_51520. Subject Files, Folder [no #]. 1922-02-16.)
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"[Item Description:] Memo of prospective receipts and expenditures between April 1st and June 1st 1922, provided no other contracts, or work is taken on'. Mentioning #867s VENTURA, #376p ESLOMA, #377p ARA, three 12 1/2 footers (#875s, #877s and #878s), five S-Class (#870s SURINAM, #871s PERNEB, #872s (Cancelled), #873s PANDORA and #876s), and #874s CYGNET." (Source: [Young, Charles Wesley (Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. Secr.)]. Correspondence (memorandum) to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_50300. Subject Files, Folder [no #]. 1922-04-01.)
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"[Item Description:] Thank you very much for your note and for the picture of 'VENTURA', which I like. I am sorry that no time when I was on the cruise [of the New York Yacht Club] did we have a good breeze, because I believe that with a breeze where 'VENTURA' [#867s] could go her maximum speed she would have surprised a great many." (Source: Baker, George F. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_18080. Correspondence, Folder 49, formerly 76. 1922-09-11.)
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"[Item Transcription:] [Typewritten letter on 'Daniel Bacon. New York and Havana. 26 Beaver Street' stationery:] Dear Mr. Herreshoff:
I was away from town yesterday and consequently only received your letter and copies of plans this morning and tonight am taking them home in order to show them to Mrs. Bacon and will write you again on Monday.
The sketch you made for me is a very interesting one, only I am afraid it is much more of a boat than I can have in mind at this time, both as regards first cost, and cost of upkeep --- the idea I had being not upward of 45 feet waterline and perhaps even a little shorter than that figure. But the only real way I believe for us to get at things properly would be for me --- as you are not likely to come this way soon to try and run on to Bristol and talk things over with you there, this being not only a more satisfactory way than writing, but also likely to save considerable time.
Meanwhile, could you give me some sort of general idea as to what cost the boat you have sketched for me might come to, ready for sea, so that I might have something to go by?
The VENTURA [#867s] Commodore Baker's boat, is more the size of boat I had in mind, except that I should prefer a ketch rig instead, if feasible. Perhaps, however, next week we can work out some more definite idea.
Yours very truly, ... [With penciled note by NGH 'Ans. July 5. $30000,-']." (Source: Bacon, Daniel. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0248. WRDT04, Folder 23, formerly MRDE08. 1924-07-03.)
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"[Item Description:] Mr. Daniel Bacon happened to call me up the day before yesterday telling me that he was contemplating building a boat and was anxious to see #867s VENTURA, I took him out on her that afternoon, he showed me the plans which he said you had drawn up and also your letter, your letter was the first intimation to me that the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company was still building boats, I don't know why I thought otherwise, but I presume it was because there was so much talk about putting the plant up for sale, now that I understand you are still doing business, I write in a very general way to ask a question of you about a thought I have had in my mind concerning a new commuting speed boat, I think that you undoubtedly remember the LITTLE VIKING, which I still have and which is running extremely satisfactorily on her eighth summer's work, I put in new engines last summer so that the boat is as good as new, but in watching the more modern types I have become enthusiastic about an idea which nobody, as far as I can see, has hit upon and which I think would be ideal for a commuting day boat, and providing it did not cost too much I might consider selling the LITTLE VIKING and building such a boat, to give you my idea, I am enclosing a picture which very fairly represents what I have in mind, with the exception that forward of the high deck house that has the big glass windows I would want to have a big cookpit instead of having a cabin, as the picture shows, the cockpit floor and the deck house floor would both be on the same level and I believe room could be made down below, aft of the deck house, to have a toilet room and possibly a small galley or pantry, ... I should he glad to hear from you on this subject, ..., I was told by my friend Bill Greenough, who was on the VENTURA in Annapolis, that he saw you when you came in there this spring, I found my shortened mast and reduced rig with the gaff wonderful for the early season that I use the boat down South, when we are apt to have heavy winds, and of course in running under power up rivers and bays with the wind against me, the shortened mast was of great advantage, as soon as I came back to home waters, however, I put in the tall spar, which I think is better than anything could be for summer work, I am just as enthusiastic about the VENTURA as I ever was; in fact I like her so much that if I were going to get a new boat I could not imagine how I could improve upon VENTURA for size, arrangement or anything else# I am able to take my wife and three children off for a week and make them all perfectly comfortable, and when you consider that it is a sail boat with only two paid hands, one of which is the cook, I think this is quite remarkable" (Source: Baker, George F. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_20170. Correspondence, Folder 56. 1924-07-05.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Handwritten (in ink) trials booklet titled '1911. Trial Trips and Experiments'. Relevant contents:
§50: #867s VENTURA Trial Run best mean speed 9.12mph (1922-03-13)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator) and Herreshoff, A. Sidney deW. (creator). Trials Booklet. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE07_04280. Folder [no #]. 1911-06 to 1926-05.)
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"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink and pencil) comparison table giving o.a.L, l.w.l, beam, beam at waterline, beam 1/10b above waterline, draft, depth at various positions, outside lead, freeboard at stem head and other positions, displacement to LWL, frame space (2.2*(D)^1/3)^.9 and other factors (I, II, III, IV), keel thick, stem sided, transverse thick, timbers, plankfloors, lead bolts, planking, diag. straps, clamps, deckbeams, deck, belt frames, rudder stock for the following boats #744 Class (Buzzards Bay Boys Boats 1914), #788 Class (Fish Class 1916), #679 DELIGHT (1908), #699 BIBELOT (1910), #828 Class S (1920), #874 CYGNET (6 meter 1922), #718 ALERION (1912 Centreboard), #932 GAME COCK (R class 1925), #727 Class (Newport 29s COMET 1914), #892 GRAYLING (Q Class 1923), #708 CORINTHIAN (P Class 1911), #773 Class (NYYC 40s 1916), #867 VENTURA (1921 Centreboard), #711 Class (NYYC 50s 1913), #625 DORIS (1905). Undated, 1925 or later given the mention of #932 GAMECOCK. Probably 1927 in preparation for NGH's Rules for Wooden Yachts." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Handwritten Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE02_06960. Folder [no #]. No date (1927 ??).)
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Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #867s Ventura even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.

• Greenough, William. "The Log of the Ventura in the Bahamas." Privately printed, 1925.
  Account of a cruise made by William Greenough (1874-1949) and George F. Baker, Jr. (1878-1937), aboard Baker's yacht Ventura (the second of that name), to the Bahamas in April 1925. 'Twelve copies of this book have been made.' 42 unnumbered pages. Copies at the New York Yacht Club as well as at Harvard Business School (Baker Family Papers).
• Greenough, William. "Cruises of the Ventura in 1926 and 1928: Log." Privately printed, 1929.
  Account of cruises made by William Greenough (1874-1949) and George F. Baker, Jr. (1878-1937), aboard Baker's yacht Ventura (the second of that name), to the Bahamas, Cuba and the Dry Tortugas in February, 1926, and to the Bahamas in the winter of 1928. '16 copies of this book have been printed.' 34 unnumbered pages. Copies at the New York Yacht Club as well as at Harvard Business School (Baker Family Papers).

• Ventura (MIT Museum-made index card)
• Ventura (MIT Museum-made index card)
• Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass.

Name: Ventura
Length: 46'
Owner: Baker, George F.

Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. "A Partial List of Herreshoff Clients." In: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. Herreshoff Yachts. Bristol, Rhode Island, ca. 1931.

• Ventura
• Adventure ex-Ventura
• Amity ex-Ventura
• Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.

Name: Ventura
Type: 45' aux. sloop
Owner: George F. Baker, Jr.
Year: 1922
Row No.: 718

Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.

Month: June
Day: 25
Year: 1921
E/P/S: S
No.: 0867
Name: Ventura
LW: 46'
Notes Constr. Record: Cost plus.
Last Name: Baker, Jr.
First Name: G. F.

Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.

Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.

"Built in 249 days (contract to delivered; equivalent to 205 lbs displacement/day)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. January 16, 2024.)

"21.08 Short Tons on D.W.L. 18.8 Long Tons on D.W.L. 658.64 Cu.Ft. [= 42153lbs] on D.W.L. Weight of Lead 12,002lbs." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (?). Handwritten note on construction plan 076-134 (HH.5.05574) Rowing Boats > Ventura Main Drawing, 1921-09-08.)

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Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.