Herreshoff #192204es [Sailing Cutter for #215p Roamer]

Particulars

Name: [Sailing Cutter for #215p Roamer]
Type: Colonia Sailing Cutter
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1922-11-1
Job No.: 12659
Construction: Wood
LOA: 16' 10" (5.13m)
Beam: 5' 0.5" (1.54m)
Rig: Sliding gunter sloop
Centerboard: yes
Built for: [Frank A. Egan or F.D.M. Strachan?]

See also:
#190202ep [Electric Launch for #215p Roamer] (1902)
#190201es [Port Boat for #215p Roamer] (1902)
#190202es [Dinghy for #215p Roamer] (1902)
#215p Roamer (1902)
#293p [Power Launch for #215p Roamer] (1913)

Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.


Model

Model #18Model number: 18
Model location: H.M.M. Model Room East Wall

Vessels from this model:
36 built, modeled by NGH
#190201ep [Electric Launch for #213p Quickstep] (1902)
#190602ep [Power Tender for #658s Irolita II] (1906)
#191002ep [Power Tender for #692s Westward] (1910)
#191902ep [Power Lifeboat for #329p Carola V] (1919)
#191903ep [Power Tender for #369p Sunflower] (1919)
#192201ep [Power Lifeboat for #329p Carola V] (1922)
#192202ep [Power Tender for #379p Mariette] (1922)
#190101es [Sailing Dinghy for #213p Quickstep] (1901)
#191101es [10ft Rowboat Job6258] (1912)
#191108es [Dinghy for #709s Joyant] (1911)
#191204es [Dinghy for #711s Ventura] (1912)
#191206es [Dinghy for #712s Spartan] (1912)
#191208es [Dinghy for #713s Iroquois II] (1912)
#191210es [Dinghy for #714s Pleione] (1912)
#191212es [Dinghy for #715s Grayling] (1912)
#191214es [Dinghy for #716s Samuri] (1912)
#191216es [Dinghy for #717s Barbara] (1912)
#191218es [Dinghy for #720s Acushla] (1912)
#191220es [Dinghy for #721s Carolina] (1912)
#191307es [Sailing Cutter for #719s Vagrant II] (1913)
#191503es [Sailing Cutter for #772s Mariette] (1915)
#191705es [Lifeboat for #303p Navette] (1917)
#191902es [Sailing Cutter for #827s Ohonkara] (1919)
#191905es [Lifeboat for #329p Carola V] (1919)
#192005es [Sailing Lifeboat for Guinevere Job10839] (1920)
#192102es [Dinghy for #867s Ventura] (1921)
#192104es [Sailing Lifeboat for #267p Enaj III] (1921, Extant)
#192204es [Sailing Cutter for #215p Roamer] (1922)
#192501es [Sailing Cutter for Katoura II] (1925)
#192602es Garryowen [Garry Owen] (1926, Extant)
#217p Maisie (1902)
#218p Carmen (1902)
#221p [Electric Launch for #151p Bellemere ex-Ballymena] (1902)
#568s [Sailing Dinghy for St. Y. Colonia] (1901)
#1093s [Sailing Dinghy for George M. Pynchon] (1928, Extant)
#1094s [Sailing Dinghy for I. B. Merriman] (1928)

Original text on model:
"Sailing dingy for COLONIA July 1901 1/12
Numbers 217 and 218 (1903) frame spaces 8 1/2" instead of 7 1/2" raised 1/2" stem 6" aft flared out to 5' 5" beam Model cut away forward and remeasured before #218 set up Dec. 1901
1923 (01?) sailing cutter for ROAMER 1925 sailing cutter for Rob. Tod 1926 sailing dinghy for Charles Goodwin." (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)

Model Description:
"#568 17'3" loa sailing dinghy of 1901 for the cutter Colonia. Also, with modifications, #217 Maisie and #218 Carmen, 20 loa electric launches of 1901, sailing cutter for the steam yacht Roamer, sailing cutter for the schooner Katoura, and sailing dinghy for Charles Goodwin." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)

Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.


Drawings

Main drawing Dwg 028-043 [076-109] (HH.5.02042) Explore all drawings relating to this boat.

List of drawings:
   Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
   Herreshoff #192204es [Sailing Cutter for #215p Roamer] are listed in bold.
   Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
  1. Dwg 028-043 [076-109] (HH.5.02042); Construction Dwg > 16'-10" x 5'-0 1/2" Sailing Cutter for # 719 (1913-03-03)
  2. Dwg 028-043 [076-109] (HH.5.05560); Construction Dwg > Sailing Cutter for # 719 (16'-10" x 5'-0 1/2") (1913-03-03)
  3. Dwg 028-060 [076-138] (HH.5.02059); Sails > Sail Plan for 16'-10" x 5'-1/2" Sailing Cutter (1922-11-20)
Source: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Together with: Hasselbalch, Kurt with Frances Overcash and Angela Reddin. Guide to The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., 1997. Together with: Numerous additions and corrections by Claas van der Linde.
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Documents

Archival Documents

"[Item Transcription:] Refering to your interesting visit here yesterday in which you left an order with our Company to build you a sailing dinghy [#192602es Garryowen] from my design and what I thought would give you best pleasure in sailing at Essex.
I would like some information from you.
I think you mentioned the length not to exceed 16 feet, is that a positive limitation?
I find [#404s] Coquina is 16ft 7in extreme length and 15ft 9in in waterline - a little longer than I had in mind. She is 5ft 1in beam with 22in depth and 14in free board at mid section and as you probably noticed has rather a lean builge and very easy lines both fore & aft. When new she weighed 275lbs and as I used to sail her had the following weight: Centerboard, rudder, oars, rowlocks & c 58lbs, sails & rigging 43 lbs, sandbags 140lbs, self with winter suit 170lbs, total 686 lbs.
We have moulds for another boat designed 12 or 14 years after Coquina which I think would make a better boat for you and probably as fast under ordinary conditions. I am enclosing profile and half breadth of deck of each for comparison which will show better by holding paper up to light. This later design has an over hang forward which gives very graceful lines
Is 17ft 2in extreme length, 14ft 8in waterline, 5ft 5in beam, 24in deep and 16 1/2in freeboard at midsection. The plan[?] is a little flatter than Coquina, giving a much fuller builge[sic] and of course much more natural stability and capable of carrying larger sails. Boats built from this model have usually been rigged with mainsail & jib and the last two [apparently #192204es Sailing Cutter for #215p Roamer and #192501es Sailing Cutter for Katoura II] had jib headed mainsails set on short masts with yard having jaws in sails. If the extreme length of 17ft 2in is used the two masted rig could be used, but if the boat is made much shorter probably the jib & mainsail rig would be desirable to get sufficient sail area.
The hull of this model 17ft 2in long would probably weigh 300lbs and will all gear on board except ballast nearly 400lbs.
Is this too much for hauling out as you propose or would a smaller size boat of less weight be preferable? Do you want all spars & rig to store in board or would you prefer tall mast, or masts that you would stow away elsewhere?
Kindly advise me on these various points." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. Letter to Goodwin, Charles A. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRRT_270. Unidentif. / Non-Cataloged, Folder MRRT. 1926-06-24.)


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Supplement

Research Note(s)

"11-1-[19]22 [When built]. #12659 [Job Number]. Move centerboard box 6" fwd. 16'-10" x 5 1/2" Sailing Cutter. Frame spacing 7 1/4". Planking, white cedar, 5/16" full lapped. Thwarts mahogany 7/8", double kneed. Floor boards, cypress. Deck cedar 5/16" thick canvas covered. W.T. bulkheads 5/32" cedar 5/32" mahogany. All trimmings of mahogany. 2 color pole sockets. Wash boards mahogany. Centerboard 5/8" oak. Length of centerboard 3' 6". Bronze wire rope traveller over tiller. For [rigging] details see [drawing] 79-85 [as per notes on drawing 28-43].
While not listed by name this is apparently #192302es [Sailing Cutter for Roamer] which is mentioned on model 18 as having been built in 1923 and whose sailplan 28-60 dated 1922-11 is the only plan listing a sailing cutter between 1922 and 1923." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. October 26, 2009.)

"This vessel's contract date was determined from notes on the original plan. Plan 28-43 (formerly 76-109) from which this boat was built was drawn 1913-03. The vessel's job number 12659 was assigned ca. 1922-11-01. #215p Roamer (for which this vessel was built) was contracted for 1901-09. This boat's contract or building date is about 21.2 years after #215p Roamer was contracted for." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. October 26, 2009.)

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