HMCo #713s Iroquois II
Particulars
Later Name(s): Chiora (1927-), Midnight Sun (1930s)
Type: New York 50 (later M-Boat)
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1912-9-13
Launch: 1913-1-18
Construction: Wood
LOA: 72' 0" (21.95m)
LWL: 50' 0" (15.24m)
Beam: 14' 7" (4.45m)
Draft: 9' 9" (2.97m)
Rig: Cutter
Sail Area: 3,416sq ft (317.4sq m)
Displ.: 37.4 short tons (33.9 metric tons)
Keel: yes
Ballast: Lead outside
Built for: Ellis, Ralph
Amount: $14,520.00
Note(s) in HMCo Construction Record: Single head rig.
Last reported: 1942 (aged 29)
See also:
Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.
Model
Model location: H.M.M. Model Room South Wall Left
Vessels from this model:
10 built, modeled by NGH
Original text on model:
"Nos. 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 720, 721
Sept. 1912 scale 1/2
Established DWL of 50' 6" [NYYC 50' Class]." (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)
Model Description:
"50' lwl New York Yacht Club 50-foot class of 1913. Nine were built. Spartan, the sole survivor, rested for several years just across Burnside Street awaiting restoration." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)
Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.
Offsets
Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.179
Offset booklet contents:
#711 - #717 inclusive, #729 [50' w.l. NYYC 50 class sloops, 22' 6" w.l. R-class sloop Scapa].
Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)
Drawings
List of drawings:
Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
HMCo #713s Iroquois II are listed in bold.
Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
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Dwg 065-028 (HH.5.04624): 46' Wl Cutter, Rudder Stock, Strap and Tiller Socket (1891-03-17)
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Dwg 077-020 (HH.5.05622): Slides for Boom, 46' W.L. Cutter # 411 (1891-05-01)
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Dwg 067-046 (HH.5.04775): Steering Gear and Track for Cutter 414 (1891-11-12)
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Dwg 077-059 (HH.5.05662); Metal Fittings for No. 440 (1894-02-01)
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Dwg 078-009 (HH.5.05727): Top Mast Back Stay Leader (1895-02-12)
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Dwg 073-009 (HH.5.05239): Ventilator Torpedo Boat No. 15 and 16 (191 and 192) (1897-09-30)
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Dwg 074-027 (HH.5.05311): Sheaves for Block List for # 499 (1899-03-30)
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Dwg 112-054 (HH.5.09346); Deck Capstan for Backstays and Jib Topsail Sheets (1899-12-26)
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Dwg 079-022 (HH.5.05833): Thimbles for Wire Luff Ropes on Jibs and Topsails (1900-01 ?)
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Dwg 079-040 (HH.5.05851): Main and Spinnaker Boom Sockets and Hanging Bands (1900-03-02)
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Dwg 079-042 (HH.5.05853): Boom and Gaff End and Details (1900-03-03)
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Dwg 093-049 (HH.5.07654); Cabin Table for Saloon 590 (Swinging) (1903-06-12)
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Dwg 110-031 (HH.5.08996): Turnbuckles # 624, 625 (1904-12-05)
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Dwg 085-061 (HH.5.06646): Stanchion Sockets for Gangway Stanchions # 634 and 641 (1905-05-10)
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Dwg 049-060 (HH.5.03736): Bath Tub Pump 5" Dia x 3 1/4" Stroke (1906-04-24)
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Dwg 084-041 [141-001] (HH.5.06492): Skylights for Forecastle and Aft of Saloon (1906-10-08)
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Dwg 110-084 (HH.5.09049): Gaff Jaw for "Doris" 625 (1907-01-01)
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Dwg 084-040 (HH.5.06491): Booby Hatch (1907-02-02)
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Dwg 084-039 (HH.5.06490): Saloon Skylight (1907-02-05)
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Dwg 084-050 (HH.5.06501): Companionway (1907-02-12)
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Dwg 084-047 (HH.5.06498): Monitor Hatch for # 666, Lazarette Hatch # 666 (1907-02-27)
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Dwg 141-071 (HH.5.11585): Refrigerator & Port-Side of Galley (1907-03-13)
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Dwg 049-065 (HH.5.03741): 3" Pump # 666, 685 (1907-03-23)
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Dwg 114-076 (HH.5.09575): Davits for # 666 (1907-03-27)
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Dwg 092-072 (HH.5.07540): General Arrangement > Gangway Steps (1907-03-28)
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Dwg 110-089 (HH.5.09054): Heel Strap for Club Top Sail Yard # 663 (1907-03-29)
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Dwg 110-107 (HH.5.09072): Boom Hanging 7 1/4" Dia. (1909-03-03)
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Dwg 110-110 (HH.5.09075): Main and Spinnaker Boom Sockets (1909-11-18)
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Dwg 091-136 (HH.5.07412.1): [Rigging] (ca. 1912)
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Dwg 091-136 (HH.5.07412.2): [Rigging] (ca. 1912)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11735): [Aft Overhang] (ca. 1912)
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Dwg 029-054 (HH.5.02148); General Arrangement > Sloop Waterline 50' (1912-09-16)
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Dwg 029-056 (HH.5.02150): General Arrangement > Sloop, 50' W.L. (1912-09-24)
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Dwg 141-079 (HH.5.11704): Keel for # 711 Class (1912-09-27)
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Dwg 091-136 (HH.5.07411): Rigging List # 711 (1912-10 ?)
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Dwg 091-136 (HH.5.07412): Rigging List # 711 (1912-10 ?)
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Dwg 146-000 (HH.5.12138): Sails > NYYC 50 Footers (1912-10 ?)
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Dwg 146-025 (HH.5.12139); Sails > NYYC 50 Footers No. 711 Class (1912-10 ?)
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Dwg 128-033 (HH.5.10111): Sails > Sails for # 711 Class (1912-10-01)
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Dwg 128-032 (HH.5.10110): Sails > Lightweight Sails for No. 711 and Class (1912-10-02)
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Dwg 091-137 (HH.5.07413); Block List for # 711 Class (1912-10-11)
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Dwg 141-082 (HH.5.11596); Construction Dwg > Construction Plan 711 - 712 - 713 - 714 - 715 - 716 - 717 - 720 (1912-10-14)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11729): Bulkheads for # 711 Class (1912-10-23)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11734): Flask for Lead Mould 711 Class (1912-10-24)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11730): Fore and Aft Panel Work # 715, Galley for All Boats # 711 Class (1912-10-25)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11731): Bulkheads # 711 Class 711 - 712 - 714 - 716 - 717 (1912-10-26)
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Dwg 141-000 (HH.5.11728): General Arrangement > Cabin Arrangement 711 - 712 - 714 - 715 - 717 (1912-10-29)
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Dwg 109-042 (HH.5.08812): Runner Plates and Staple (1912-10-30)
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Dwg 064-089 (HH.5.04565); Rudder Fittings 711 Class (1912-11-01)
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Dwg 109-043 (HH.5.08813): Travelers for # 711 Class and Staples for Main and Topsail (1912-11-02)
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Dwg 109-044 (HH.5.08814): Stemband # 711 Class Bow Chocks (1912-11-04)
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Dwg 109-045 (HH.5.08815): Mast Partner # 711 Class (1912-11-14)
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Dwg 091-138 (HH.5.07414): Running Rigging # 711 (1912-12 ?)
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Dwg 081-095 (HH.5.06186): Mast & Spars for # 711 Class (1912-12-08 ?)
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Dwg 109-046 (HH.5.08816): Mast Head Vertical Strap Peak Halyard Eye Bolt and Spreader Clips (1912-12-10)
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Dwg 109-109 [109-047] (HH.5.08878): Spreader Crotch Details (1912-12-12)
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Dwg 109-057 (HH.5.08827): Double Shackle for Staysail Tack (1913-01-02)
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Dwg 109-067 (HH.5.08837): Grip for 2" Mainsheet (1913-04-01)
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Dwg 109-068 (HH.5.08838): Strut for Mast Truss # 711 Class (1913-04-08 ?)
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Dwg 143-037 (HH.5.11902): Docking Plan 711 Class 72' x 50' x 14'-6" x 9'-9" (1913-04-16)
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Dwg 076-111 (HH.5.05561); Construction Dwg > 72' O.A., 50' W.L., 12'-6" Beam, 9'-9" Dr. (1913-04-21)
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Dwg 109-144 (HH.5.08912): Change in Peak Halyards of 711 Class NYYC 50 Footers (1919-09-25)
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Dwg 025-131 (HH.5.01886); Casting List 711 Class (1920-07-26 ?)
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Dwg 025-132 (HH.5.01887): Frame List # 711 Class (1920-07-26 ?)
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Dwg 109-153 (HH.5.08920): Boom Truss for # 711 Class (1922-07-13)
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Dwg 074-075 (HH.5.05364): Quick Working Shackles for Blocks Hal. and Double Sheets (1923-03-12)
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Dwg 146-039 (HH.5.12153); Sails > NYYC 50 Footer [Gaff vs Marconi] (ca. 1924)
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Dwg 146-040 (HH.5.12154): Sails > NYYC 50 Footer with Leg O' Mutton Sail on Standard Yacht (1924-11 ?)
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Dwg 130-156 (HH.5.10468): Sails > N.Y.Y.C. 50 Footer Chiora (1927-03-02)
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Dwg 080-096 (HH.5.06010); Mast for N.Y.Y.C. 50 Footer "Chiora", ex "Iroquois II" (1927-04-13)
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Dwg 074-083 (HH.5.05372); Backstay Runner Block for 1/2" Chain Used with (112-132) (1927-06-02)
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Dwg 091-178 (HH.5.07454): Rigging List for Leg O' Mutton Rig on NYYC 50-Footer Chiora (1927-06-04)
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Dwg 128-115 (HH.5.10243): Sails > Sails for "Chiora" (1929-08-05)
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Dwg 132-000 (HH.5.10735): Sails > Proposed Ketch Rig for NYYC 50 Footer (1932-08 ?)
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.
Documents
Nathanael G. Herreshoff
"[1912-10-21] Mon 21: Went to NY by train to see H.S. Vanderbilt. ...
[1912-10-22] Tue 22: Meeting of 50 footers occurs at noon. Returned home in PM.
[1912-12-11] Wed 11: Began setting up #713 [NY50 Iroquois II]. Deck laid on #718 [Alerion III].
[1912-12-14] Sat 14: Began planking #713 [NY50 Iroquois II] and deck frame all in on 711 [Ventura].
[1912-12-20] Fri 20: Finished laying deck of #712 [Spartan]. Cast lead for #713 [NY50 Iroquois II].
[1912-12-28] Sat 28: Finished planking #713 [NY50 Iroquois II]. ...
[1912-12-31] Tue 31: Very fine & mild [with] mod[erate] SW [wind] & clear. Turned over #713 [NY50 Iroquois II].
[1913-01-18] Sat 18: ... Launched #713 [NY50 Iroquois II] and hauled out at cove. Very mild weather. Fog & l[igh]t r[ain].
[1913-04-25] Fri 25: Mr. Ellis here and takes over his 50 footer Iroquois II [#713s].
[1913-04-27] Sun 27: Fog early. Viking tows away 3 of the new 50 footers. [They were #711s Ventura owned by George F Baker, Jr., #713s Iroquois owned by Ralph N Ellis, and #716s Samuri owned by William Earl Dodge, according to the Bristol Phoenix of April 29, 1913, p. 2.]
[1913-05-15] Thu 15: Eight of the 50 footers have been delivered and [have] left.
[1913-08-07] Thu 7: Fine with light SE to S [wind]. We ... go to see Astor Cup race. Light day. Elena [#706s] & Iroquois [#713s] won. ...
[1913-08-23] Sat 23: Fresh SSW [wind]. Start at 11 for cruise to eastward. Go down Bay in company of Roamer [#215p] & Dianthus [#289p]. See start of race of 50 footers, then outside. Rough sea. ...
[1927-08-26] Fri 26: Fresh NE [wind], overcast. Two races in M class [off Newport] in which Chiora [#713s ex-Iroqois II] & Carolina [#721s] won. Live Yankee won in R class." (Source: Herreshoff, Nathanael G. Diary, 1912 to 1913, 1927. Manuscript (excerpts). Diary access courtesy of Halsey C. Herreshoff.)
"Sept[ember] 24 1912.
Nos. 711 - 712 - 713 714 - 715 - 716 - 717 [#711s Ventura, #712s Spartan, #713s Iroquois II, #714s Pleione, #715s Grayling, #716s Samuri, #717s Barbara (and #720s Acushla, #721s Carolina II)].
50ft w.l. Class N.Y.Y.C.
Frame spaces 18".
Sheer height given is to under side of deck. Deck 1 3/4".
In making moulds deduct
for planking 1 3/4"
for timbers at head 2 1/2" increasing 5/64" per foot for full length
[Total] 4 1/4"
Keel to lay on top of lead, and 5 3/8" with rabbate 1 1/2" above bottom." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. [Handwritten (in ink) notes in Offset Booklet HH.4.179.] September 24, 1912. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection, MIT Museum, Cambridge, MA.)
"In the fall of 1912, we had orders for the noted New York Yacht Club Fifty Foot Class ..." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Some of the Boats I Have Sailed In." Written 1934. In: Pinheiro, Carlton J. (ed.). Recollections and Other Writings by Nathanael G. Herreshoff. Bristol, 1998, p. 72.)
L. Francis Herreshoff
"... the most important work of the Herreshoff Company for 1913 was the one-design class of New York Yacht Club Fifties for there were nine of this one-design class built that winter, which seems strange these days when a yacht of the same overall length recently built cost over two hundred thousand dollars. Although the Fifties were of about the best material and workmanship that ever went into yachts of their size, they were so efficiently built that it is said they only cost approximately seventeen thousand dollars apiece in 1913. The general dimensions of these Fifties were: L.O.A., seventy-two feet; L.W.L., fifty feet; beam, fourteen feet six inches; draft, nine feet nine inches. ...
The Fifties were raced very hotly the first two years but had few protests and no serious collisions. The author raced on 'Barbara' many races the first two years and can say that under their original rig they were fine, comfortable racing yachts when they had a crew of four or more professionals, but after World War I they were too expensive to run even if good crews had been available so several were changed to yawls or schooners, or leg-o'-mutton sloops. However, the Astor Cup for sloops has been won by one or another of them about nine times, ..." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. The Wizard of Bristol. The Life and Achievements of Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, together with An Account of Some of the Yachts he Designed. New York, 1953, p. 283-284.)
"The New York Yacht Club Fifties came out in 1913, and perhaps this was the largest class of sizeable one-design yachts the world has ever seen. There were nine of them with the dimensions of 72' LOA; 50' LWL; 14.5' beam; 9.75' draft. ... The Fifties raced very hotly the first few years and made some very close starts, and as I remember it there were few protests and no serious collisions. I raced on the one named Barbara [#717s] many times; she was handled by Bob Emmons who had owned Avenger and was to be the manager of the next cup defender Resolute. One or another of the Fifties won the Astor Cup nine times under a sloop rig, and, as Pleione [#714s] had won four Astor Cups under a schooner rig, this makes by far the greatest number of times these cups were won by vessels of the same model. In my opinion the Fifties were about the last high-grade, reasonably-priced yachts built. They were 72' OA, and of late years there have been several yachts built with this same length on deck that cost fifteen times as much while the cost of clothes, food and real estate has only increased some three times. Some of the reasons for this great difference in cost of yachts now and in the year the Fifties were built (and that year happened to be the year the income tax started) are as follows:
1. The Fifties were designed and built completely --- sails, spars, rigging, hull, and so forth, by one concern. The only things I can think of now that the builders did not make were the stoves, water-closets, and the larger rigging blocks.
2. Good plant management is the principal way of decreasing the cost of building yachts and, while this can only be learned by experience and the use of common sense, it is a fact that in those days there were two or three yacht yards that were well managed. One of the simple things of good management was to have all of the materials on hand before they were needed, and in those days the yacht yards carried an inventory of materials at least ten times as large as at present. This often allowed them to buy at considerable reduction in price.
3. The spirit, or enthusiasm and pride, of the workmen were important factors in building yachts quickly and well, and I do not know how this was arranged but, I do know that the workers were almost all paid different wages according to their accomplishments.
At present, almost all yachts are designed by one concern and assembled by another. This makes for never-ending complication and, as the designing concern is paid its commission based on the cost of the yacht, they seem to do little nowadays to simplify the construction. I have used the word 'assemble' to describe what was once called 'building a yacht' for today we even hear of yachts' keels being cast hundreds of miles away instead of the mold being set up on the stocks where the yacht is to be built, while the other parts of the yacht may be made by ten or more distant concerns. In the meantime, the art of yacht building, which has taken thousands of years to develop, is lost, and materials such as laminated wood and plastics are substituted in an effort to get around this lack of know-how, but the weight and cost of these materials is so much more than natural wood that the result is not very satisfactory.
As for the workers, they are paid alike and seem to try to make the job last as long as possible. Some of them who wouldn't know an adz if they stumbled over it, try pretty hard to master the new techniques and only time will tell if they will be successful. The modern worker hates all hand tools simply because he does not know how to sharpen or lubricate them, but I have known men who could swing a broad ax all day and every time the ax struck it would lop off a shaving you could cook a breakfast with. These men hewed so close to the line that to finish the job, be it straight, curved or rounded, it only took a few strokes with a well-sharpened plane whose sole was rubbed with paraffin. And that is how yachts were built in those times which is quite different from the present when workmen only want to work with materials they can finish with a power sander.
I have used all these words to try to explain why the New York Yacht Club Fifties cost only $17,000.00 while three or four modern yachts of the same length cost $250,000.00.
For crew the Fifties had a captain, two sailors and a steward but, even by their second year (and second year of the income tax) several of the owners complained about the cost of running them, and that was one of the reasons the New York Yacht Club Forties came into existence a few years later." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. An Introduction to Yachting. New York, 1963, p. 175.)
Other Contemporary Text Source(s)
"[Abstract of register or enrollment. Pos. 467:]
Iroquois II, sloop yacht, of Bristol.
Built at Bristol, 1913.
25 tons; 57 ft. x 14.5 ft. x 92 ft. [Register length x breadth x depth.]
One deck, one mast, overhanging head [bow].
Enr[olled] and Lic[ensed] (consolidated) ([as] yacht) Apr. 19, 1913. Owner: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company of Bristol. Master: John B. Herreshoff, Bristol.
Surrendered [license] Oct. 10, 1914 at New York. ([Record at:] C[ustom] H[ouse, Providence])." (Source: Survey of Federal Archives, Work Projects Administration. Ships Documents of Rhode Island. Bristol. Ship Registers and Enrollments of the Port of Bristol - Warren Rhode Island, 1941, s.v. Iroquois.)
"Capt Nat Herreshoff gave the new 50 foot racing sloop Iroquois II [#713s], recently built at the Herreshoff boat shops, a trial spin in the harbor, Friday [April 25, 1913] afternoon. Ralph N Ellis of the New York Yacht Club is the owner. The Iroquois II and two other 50 footers, the Samuri [#716s], owned by William Earl Dodge, and the Ventura [#711s], owned by George F Baker, Jr, of the New York Yacht Club, and built by the Herreshoffs, sailed for Glen Cove Saturday." (Source: Anon. "Bristol and Vicinity." Bristol Phoenix, April 29, 1913, p. 2.)
"... With the exception of Carolina [#721s], owned by Vice Commodore George Nichols of the New York Yacht Club, all the N. Y. Y. C. one-design 50-footers have changed owners within the last year. F. D. M. Strachan has sold his Harpoon [#720s ex-Acushla] to L. V. Lockwood of the N. Y. Y. C, Harry B Plant the Spartan [#712s] to Carroll B. Alker. Commodore Ralph Ellis of the Seawanhaka-Corinthian Yacht Club the Iroquois II [#713s] to Vice Commodore Paul Hammond of the same club, Frank B. Paine of Boston the Barbara [#717s] to Isaac B. Merriman of the N. Y. Y. C., the Pleione [#714s] to Kenneth F. Wood of Saylerville, R. I. and L F Crofoot of Omaha, a member of the Eastern Yacht Club, the Virginia [#716s] to Walter K. Shaw of the same club. These transfers were all made since the close of the 1923 season, while Clifford D. Mallory purchased the Grayling [#715s] from former Commodore J. P. Morgan early this year and in June former commodore Aemillus Jarvis of the Royal Canadian Yacht Club of Toronto purchased the Istalena [#711s] and had her converted to schooner rig. ..." (Source: Anon. "Notes From The Week's Log." Boston Globe, December 2, 1923, p. 41.)
"... John G. Alden reports the sale of the New York Yacht Club 50-footer Iroquois [#713s ] by H. L. Kimball of Providence to Charles L. Harding of Boston. The Iroquois will replace Mr Harding's racing schooner Wildfire [#891s] that he recently sold to a New York yachtsman. The Iroquois will be given a jibheaded mainsail rig similar to that used on Commodore George Nichols' 50-footer Carolina [#721s] last year, so as to race next season against the Barbara [#717s], Carolina, Spartan [#712s], and the 50-footer [#715s Ibis ex-Grayling] purchased last Fall by Clinton H. Crane. ..." (Source: Anon. "Yachts and Yachtsmen." Boston Globe, February 13, 1927, p. 50.)
"The great New York fifty-footers, probably the fastest one-design sloops ever built in this country, ... have now been incorporated in what is known as Class M and will race against a new boat built at Herreshoff's for former Commodore Harold S. Vanderbilt named Prestige [#1058s], which embodies all the modern ideas that have developed in recent years for racing yachts and which is built to the limit of Class M. It will be the first meeting of the new and the old.
The fifties also have been modernized. These fine sloops, with a wealth of racing achievement behind them under the old clubtopsail rig, are now coming out under the Marconi sail plan for their supreme test against Prestige. ...
... Clinton H. Crane ... a naval architect who [is] the owner and the helmsman of one of the fifties ... [#715s Ibsis ex-Grayling] ... analyzed the situation as follows:
'Racing in the M class in the coming Summer [of 1927] is a natural development from the previous racing in the popular New York Fifties. The class consisted originally of nine boats built by Herreshoff in 1913. Although of one design, these boats were built to the limits of the universal rule in displacement, quarter-beam length. &c, and were, in Herreshoff's judgment, the fastest model under the rule for a boat of that size, in fact, they turned out so well that the cup defender Resolute [#725s] was subsequently developed from their model.
'In the Summer of 1926 the class was pretty well scattered --- three of them converted into schooners [#711s Venture ex-Istalena and #714s Pleione ] or yawls [#720s Acushla], one [#721s Carolina] into an out-and-out Marconi rating (the same as the fifties did as cutters), and only one, Carolina, racing during the New York Yacht Club cruise. Efforts to revive the class and modernize the rig have been made from time to time. It was suggested that it might be interesting to assemble as many of the fifties as possible, to rig them with a modern Marconi rig and select a rating which would be suitable. The M, or 46-foot class, seemed a very logical class to choose.
'The ball was started rolling by Commodore Nichols and myself agreeing to rerig our fifties [#721s Carolina II and #715s Ibis ex-Grayling] to rate 46 feet and to invite former Commodore Vanderbilt to build a new boat [#1058s Prestige], also to rate 46 feet. Since then Charles L. Harding is rerigging Iroquois [#713s] and Wilmer Hanan is rerigging Spartan [#712s].
Fifties Have Great Record.
'The speed of the fifties is well known, but it is perhaps not realized by the yachting public how fast this one-design class has proved when raced under time allowance against the other racing yachts of the Eastern seaboard. The fifties came out in 1913 and since that date have won every Astor Cup for sloops but one and five out of nine races for the King's Cup where schooners also competed, but since the fifties came out no other sloop has won the King's Cup. With a modernized rig their admirers still feel they will make a good showing even against the new M.
'The new boat being designed for Mr. Vanderbilt by Starling Burgess should do much to show whether or not the developments in the R class have taught naval architects something which can be applied to larger yachts and whether or not as a result of this experiment the model of the fifties is entirely outdated. It will be the first open-class racing as distinct from one-design racing in sloops eligible for the King's Cup that has taken place in many years.
'It seems to me that if the ten-meter class invites some one to build an out and out ten-meter without restrictions other than those imposed by the international rule a similar most interesting experiment might be had in that class." (Source: Lawrence, Seabury. "Fifties Risk Their Prestige Against New Yacht Prestige. Famous Old New York Class to Stand or Fall Next Week in Test With Vanderbilt Craft, Built at Herreshoff's, incorporating Latest Ideas Developed in Racing Yachts." New York Times, June 24, 1927, p. 17.)
"... Next in size and in a way more important [than #1050s Katoura] is the new Prestige, by the same designers [Burgess, Rigg & Morgan] and builder [Herreshoff] for Harold S. Vanderbilt; rating at the top of the 45-foot class. To meet her, four of the old 50-foot one-design class --- Ibis [#715s ex-Grayling], Carolina [#721s], Chiora [#713s ex-Iroquois II] and Spartan [#712s] --- originally rating at 48.4 feet, were refitted with the leg o'-mutton rig and cut down to 45-foot rating, this making a very fine class. The coming season is likely to see one or two new yachts in the class, with others of the old 50-footers. ..." (Source: Stephens, W. P. "Yachting Showed Slow Recovery From World War." Brooklyn Daily Eagle, December 25, 1927, p. C5.)
"A third Class M sloop has been added to the Marblehead fleet in the cast week by the purchase of the Chiora by Warner Eustis from Frederick H. Prince. This former New York 50-footer has long had Marblehead as her hailing port for she has been owned before coming under Frederick Prince's colors by Charles L. Harding and Chandler Hovey. ..." (Source: Anon. "Notes from Log." Boston Globe, June 7, 1931, p. B47.)
Other Modern Text Source(s)
"1925. ... H. Earl Kimball left his Larchmont O sloop Georgia at Herreshoff's and bought the New York 50 Iroquois. ..." (Source: Davis, Jeff. Yachting in Narragansett Bay. Providence, 1946, p. 25.)
"1927. ... H. Earl Kimball sold the New York 50 Iroquois [#713s] to Boston ..." (Source: Davis, Jeff. Yachting in Narragansett Bay. Providence, 1946, p. 36.)
... After some very good racing on the Sound in the spring of '29, I started eastward with the Ibis [#715s ex-Grayling] and joined the Eastern Yacht Club's cruise at Marblehead, and we went on down east with good racing on all the runs.
I particularly remember a run from North Haven to Boothbay; the early part was in rather fluky weather. Prestige [designed by Burgess] ran into a flat spot when she was leading the class and finally got so far behind that she withdrew. I was having a very close race with [#717s] Barbara, which had been bought by Freddy Prince and was sailed by Johnny Lawrence. The turning mark before going into Boothbay was Squirrel Island. Ibis, by this time, was just ahead of Barbara, and I rounded the island as close to the shore as I dared to go. We saw a spindle standing out of the water just west of the island. Spindles on the Maine coast are often not on the very edge of the reef which they mark, and I gave this one a wide berth. Johnny Lawrence cut between me and the spindle. On board the Barbara afterwards, I said, 'Johnny, you must have known that that spindle was on the edge of the ledge.'
He said, 'No, I didn't, but the only way we could win the run was to go inside of you and, at any rate, it was Freddy Prince's boat.' [p. 169. Note: Clinton Crane apparently confused #717s Barbara and #713s Chiora ex-Iroquois II. It was Chiora which in 1929/1930 was owned by Frederick H. Prince of Marblehead, not Barbara.]" (Source: Crane, Clinton. Clinton Crane's Yachting Memories. New York, 1952.)
Maynard Bray
"At 72 feet overall, the New York 50s were among the largest Herreshoff sailing hulls to be built upside down and entirely of wood construction. They were built in a kind of production line. While one hull was being planked, the previous one, turned upright, was having its interior and deck installed. This same two-boat cycle was repeated all during the winter and spring of 1912-1913, until the last of the nine New York 50s slid overboard from the North Construction Shop's launching ways.
Like all but the smallest Herreshoff-built wood-hulled racing yachts, the New York 50s were double-planked and diagonally strapped with metal, which gave them unusual strength for their weight. ..." (Source: Bray, Maynard and Carlton Pinheiro. Herreshoff of Bristol. Brooklin, Maine, 1989, p. 103.)
Archival Documents
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"[Item Description:] info request re new 50ft class [will lead to #713s IROQUOIS II]; NGH reply with short description how NY50s will look like" (Source: Ellis, Ralph N. (incl NGH reply). Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_05410. Correspondence, Folder 19, formerly 135. 1912-09-04.)
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"[Item Description:] Info request re new NY50 class [#713s IROQUOIS II]." (Source: Ellis, Ralph N. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_05400. Correspondence, Folder 19, formerly 135. 1912-09-09.)
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"[Item Description:] HH.5.02148 (029-054). Blueprint preliminary general arrangement plan with plan view and inboard profile titled 'Sloop. WL about 50ft. Scale 3/8in = 1ft. Sept[ember] 16 - 1912'. Marked in pencil 'Standard Arrangement for 50ft Class [New York 50 class: #711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s and #721s]'." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0143. WRDT08, Folder 12, formerly MRDE02. 1912-09-16.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections with weight calculations titled '50 w.l. Sloops. Measured at 51.5[t] LWL (LWL is 2 1/2 inches above the designed w.l. of 50!). Sept 22, 1912. From finished model. Nos. 711-12-13-14-15-16-17-20&21 [#711s VENTURA, #712s SPARTAN, #713s IROQUOIS II, #714s PLEIONE, #715s GRAYLING, #716s SAMURI, #717s BARBARA, #720s ACUSHLA, #721s CAROLINA II]'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_00890. Folder [no #]. 1912-09-22.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections with weight calculations titled '#711 & class. 50 w.l. Sloops. Referred to designed w.l. of 50ft. Scale 1/2in. From finished model. Nos. 711-12-13-14-15-16-17 [#711s VENTURA, #712s SPARTAN, #713s IROQUOIS II, #714s PLEIONE, #715s GRAYLING, #716s SAMURI, #717s BARBARA, #720s ACUSHLA, #721s CAROLINA II]. Sept 22, 1912'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_00910. Folder [no #]. 1912-09-22.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph lead sections on partially very creased paper titled 'No 711 & class [#711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s]. Scale 1in & 1/12in. Sept[ember] 24, 1912'. Wth calculations showing required lead of 37410lbs at .576 of 50ft w.l." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Lead Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_03790. Folder [no #]. 1912-09-24.)
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"[Item Description:] Blueprint table titled 'Program - Construction No. 711 Class. 1912-1913' with a detailed building time schedule for #711s VENTURA, #712s SPARTAN, #713s IROQUOIS II, #714s PLEIONE, #715s GRAYLING, #716s SAMURI, #717s BARBARA with planned dates and durations for 'Begin Work on Keel and Foundation', 'Setup Frames and Lead Mould', 'Begin Planking and Cast Lead', 'Turn Over and Set on Lead', 'Launch', 'Begin to Rig' and 'Delivery'. Including some penciled-in dates. (Note that actual building times turned out to be substantially shorter than initially envisioned.) Undated, between September 13, 1912 when these boats were contracted for and October 14, 1912, the first date on this plan." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_03440. Folder [no #]. No date (between 1912-09-13 and 1912-10-14).)
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"[Item Description:] HMCo Plan 76-111. Photostat construction plan with inboard profile, plan view, sections and scantlings titled '72ft overall, 50ft w.l., 14ft 6in beam, 9ft 9in br' for the NY50 class (#711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s)." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Photostat Construction Plan. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0164. WRDT08, Folder 15, formerly MRDE02. 1913-04-21.)
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"[Item Description:] you wanted special attention paid to Eaton, we gave it to him, at the start today in a strong breeze he got ahead of the gun on the port tack tried to pay off to get back, found he could not as three boats were coming for him on starboard tack, tried to come about too late & messed the whole crowd up & hit #715s GRAYLING, we sent him home at once, #717s BARBARA miscalculated & tried to cover #714s PLEIONE & they came together, the latter's topmast breaking off about four feet from the truck, Muir[?] on Ellis' boat [#713s IROQUOIS II] handled her very well ... & won a good race" (Source: Duncan, W. Butler, Jr. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_43180. Correspondence, Folder 93, formerly 127. (1913 or later)-08-11.)
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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections with pinpricks and radials titled '711 Class [#711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s]. 50 footers. Oct[ober] 2 1913'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0392. WRDT04, Folder 34, formerly MRDE08. 1913-10-02.)
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"[Item Transcription:] Order book with carbon copy duplicates of instructions given by NGH. Relevant contents:
§51: Work Order [For] #711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s. [When wanted] Soon. Plow steel wire (1912-10-05)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Order Book. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE08_04730. Folder [no #]. 1909-10 to 1914-11.)
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"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink) rating rule-related table on two pages with dimensions LOA, LWL, overhang fore & aft, mean length, freeboard fore & center & aft, breadth deck & w.l., draft, cube-root (displacement), 1st mast mean length, 1st to 2nd mast, J, P1, H1, B1, G1, V1, T1, P2, P2a, H2, B2, Q2, Y2,T2, sail area, sqrt(SA), sqrt(SA - NYYC Rule) for #605s RELIANCE, #499s COLUMBIA, #725s RESOLUTE, #529s MINEOLA, #663s ISTALENA, #666s AVENGER, New York 50s (#711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s), #411s GLORIANA, #685s ADVENTURESS, #617s COCK ROBIN II, #586s NELLIE, #709s JOYANT, #708s CORINTHIAN, #670s SENECA, Bar Harbor 31s (#592s, #593s, #594s, #595s, #596s, #597s, #598s, #599s, #600s, #601s, #602s, #603s, #604s), New York 30s (#626s, #627s, #628s, #629s, #630s, #631s, #632s, #633s, #635s, #636s, #637s, #638s, #639s, #640s, #642s, #643s, #647s, #648s), Newport 29s (#727s, #728s, #737s), #691s MORE JOY, #446s ALERION II, Buzzards Bay 550s (#733s, #734s, #736s, #738s, #741s), #617s COCK ROBIN II, #493s JILT, #732s SADIE, #460s KILDEE, Buzzards Bay 15s (#503s Class), Buzzards Bay 12 1/2s (#744s Class), #703s FLYING CLOUD, #669s ELEANOR, #722s KATOURA, #692s WESTWARD, #657s QUEEN, #719s VAGRANT II, #698s VAGRANT, #663s ISTALENA, and #743s HASWELL. With penciled note 'Measurements in ft & inches. Results in ft & decimals'. Undated (the youngest boat on this list is from 1914/1915 and this was probably prepared in preparation for NGH's sail area rating rule of 1914/1915)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Handwritten Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE15_00100. Folder [no #]. No date (1914 / 1915 ?).)
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"[Item Description:] [on Flagship Viking stationery:] Marblehead, in your judgment would it do any harm to tow one [New York] fifty footer astern of another from here to Newport, by way of the [Cape Cod] Canal, taking into account the fact that there would be something of a sea on in Massachusetts Bay, if you think it would be practical I should be glad if you would indicate how the tow line should be made fast to the leading boat [in the end Baker's VIKING towed three NY50s through the canal: #711s VENTURA, #713s IROQUOIS II and #715s GRAYLING]" (Source: Baker, George F. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_20130. Correspondence, Folder 56. 1915-08-08.)
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"[Item Description:] HMCo Plan 74-75. Blueprint detail plan titled 'Quick Working Shackles for Blocks Hal & Double Sheets. Job 1-336. Mentioned vessels include: #711s, #712s, #713s, #714s, #715s, #716s, #717s, #720s, #721s, #773s, #774s, #775s, #776s, #777s, #778s, #779s, #780s, #781s, #782s, #783s, #804s, #891s, #955s, and #983s." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (Newman, H.F.) (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0184. WRDT08, Folder 17, formerly MRDE06. 1923-03-12.)
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"[Item Transcription:] I thank you for yours of the 5th inst. regarding the rig for the '50's' [and thus for #721s CAROLINA].
One-design racing in this Class seems to be at a low ebb. Mallory [owner of #715s MYSTIC ex-GRAYLING] plans to stick 8 feet onto his present mast and to leave the fore triangle as at present, thereby, I should think, producing a result that is neither one thing or the other. Hanan, to whom expense means nothing, has proposed leaving 'SPARTAN' [#712s] as she is, but wants permission to carry seven paid hands. Paul Hammond still owns 'Iroquois' [#713s], and I believe hopes to sell her, but is holding her at a very high price. Shaw [owner of #716s ANDIAMO ex-SAMURI], I understand, has ordered from someone in Boston a mast some 10 feet longer than my Marconi. Whether or not he has ordered the rest of the rig, I do not know, but he is not a racing man and what he does or does not do is of little importance to the Class. Hanan, who has been cruising in the West Indies, is expected home in a few days when I hope to see him and make some arrangement for the coming Summer. [incl. envelope]" (Source: Nichols, George. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_30220. Subject Files, Folder 27, formerly 10-15. 1925-03-09.)
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"[Item Transcription:] I am glad to hear from George Cormack this morning that he highly approves the details regarding your prize [the Herreshoff Medal] as you have worked them out, and that it will be presented to the Club at the May meeting. I feel sure it will be received with great enthusiasm.
I will mail you tonight a blue-print received from Bristol showing the outline of 'CAROLINA's' [#721s] new rig. I am a little worried about the size of the jib --- not that I anticipate any serious trouble in trimming it, but because I fear the added strain on the runners and, more particularly, their chain plates.
The sketch shows a single spreader. As we already have the double spreaders and the rigging to go with them, is it worth while to make the change? The staying plan is, of course, not worked out on this sketch. Would you sketch me out your suggestion? Aside from Mr. [Walter K.] Shaw [owner of #716s ANDIAMO ex-SAMURI], who may go on the [NYYC] cruise and sail for the important Cups, it seems doubtful whether I shall have any competition, so I am hesitating a little between this rigging and your suggestion of use of the regular mast fore triangle with a triangular mainsail. In this latter case, could a wire jack stay along the after side of the mast be set up tight enough with a turn buckle in the deck to hold the mainsail from the spreaders up? Below the spreaders, regular mast hoops or a lacing could be used. Possibly above the masthead, a few hoops could also be used, that the sail could be hooked as it is hoisted by a man aloft, in such a way that they would clear themselves as it is lowered? A scheme such as this would obviate removal of the iron work on the mast and scarring it up by screwing on a track.
I do not feel it worth while to make any very serious effort to compete with Mr. Shaw, for, while I shall doubtless feel badly at the time if he walks off with the Astor and King's Cups [Nichols and CAROLINA would win the 1926 Astor Cup for sloops], the chance of his starting for them is extremely problematical. Two years ago, you will remember, he brought out his boat for a season's racing. He was involved in a protest the second time he started, and the newspapers reported his time at the finish some seconds differently from what he had timed it himself. The difference in time did not involve any difference in position, but the two circumstances combined so annoyed him that he started in only one more race that season and, if my memory serves, dropped out of that. I very much like the man personally and admire his experiments, but what he really enjoys is sailing and making port to port passages, and he is sufficiently independent in thought not to race unless he happens to feel like it when the time comes, even though he has spent a lot of time and money in preparing to do so.
Ralph Ellis [former owner of #713s IROQUOIS II] has been playing with the idea of buying back a 50 Footer, but has telegraphed me that he will not come to any decision until his arrival from California the latter part of May, and probably will not do so.
Mr. Hanan [owner of #712s SPARTAN] has talked of coming out and may very likely do so for a short time, but is not preparing a serious racing season.
Am much interested in the new 'PLEASURE' for Mr. Mallinckrodt [#1002s AIDA], and was glad to hear from Charles [Nystrom], who was here yesterday, that you had sent him instructions about her. Mr. Mallinckrodt brought me a list of second-hand boats which he was considering, but it did not seem to me that any of them was quite satisfactory to his needs, so I persuaded him to give an order for a new one, and naturally feel much interested and, to some extent, responsible.
My kindest regards to Mrs. Herreshoff.
I hope you have arranged 'PLEASURE's' [#907s] insurance to your satisfaction. If there is anything more I can do about it, please let me know." (Source: Nichols, George. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_30530. Subject Files, Folder 27, formerly 10-15. 1926-04-29.)
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"[Item Description:] [on 'Eleven Thomas Street' stationery, indicating this to have come from George Nichols:] Mr. [Clinton] Crane has sent me a sketch of the [marconi] rig he designed for #715s GRAYLING, rating, staying arrangement, #721s CAROLINA II, with Crane [#715s IBIS ex-GRAYLING], Maxwell [#717s BARBARA], Hanan [#712s SPARTAN] and possibly Ralph Ellis [#713s IROQUOIS II] against me next season I shall have to be careful [incomplete, possibly not completely scanned, part of a group of documents pinned together with George Nichols to NGH letter of October 30, 1926 being the topmost letter]" (Source: Nichols, George. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRRT_200. Unidentif. / Non-Cataloged, Folder MRRT. 1926-10-30.)
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"[Item Description:] Crane ordered design as matter of information from L. Francis Herreshoff but Harold Vanderbilt was not interested possibly because great overall length, low ends and canoe stern did not appeal to him, am glad you feel it not all up with the NY50s yet, they will sail in 46ft rating class, promises to be keen class, Clinton Crane #715s IBIS ex-GRAYLING, Harding bought #713s IROQUOIS II, Hanan #712s SPARTAN, have not seen new Scantling Rules, hope you will criticize them, NYYC had nothing further to do with them, ABS took it up from that point and the Rules are theirs, incl. NGH reply: comparing ex-NY50s against coming M class and Harold Vanderbilt's new Burgess boat [#1058s PRESTIGE], my present study uses as much of your two rigs [for #721s CAROLINA II], new sails are faster than old ones even if old ones set equally well possibly because new canvas is more air tight, experiment by filling pores of old sails with some fine material could be carried out with R-boat or converted NY50s but require considerable time spent by 2 well matched crews to get clonclusions, detailed suggestions for CAROLINA, advise to dispence with quarterlifts entirely and have a single boom lift instead, if lazy lines required when cruising have eyes each side of mast only about 25ft up to hook blocks into and from there to boom, this arrangement saves a whole lot of trouble from the sailbattens, I made this change on #907s PLEASURE and found it vastly better [part of a group of documents pinned together with George Nichols to NGH letter of October 30, 1926 being the topmost letter]" (Source: Nichols, George (incl NGH reply). Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRRT_230. Unidentif. / Non-Cataloged, Folder MRRT. 1927-02-28.)
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"[Item Transcription:] [Printed circular, two sheets of paper:] New York Yacht Club The Cruise 1927
Additional Racing Instructions Run From Huntington To New London—16Th August
In case of no wind at Huntington at the proposed time of the Start on the 16th August, the following signals will be made by the Flagship: etc. ... [Plus printed circular:] New York Yacht Club
List of yachts, measurement certificates of which were on file with the Race Committee on August 1, 1927, which will be valid for the Cruise.
SCHOONERS: C Class
C 2 OHONKARA [#827s]
C 7 VAGRANT [#719s]
C 3 VANITIE
D Class: D 25 ADVANCE
D 7 CONSTANCE
D 22 WILDFIRE [#891s]
D 5 LYNX
E Class: E 4 AURELIA
E 9 QUEEN MAB [#698s]
E16 SHAWNA
F Class: F3 CURLEW
F 4 MARY ROSE [#954s]
F 1 PLEIONE [#714s]
F 11 CACHALOT
G Class: S.C. 11 CLYTIE
S.C. 12 NADJI
S.C. 9 NOKOMIS
S.C. 6 SEVEN SEAS
G 1 WANDERER IX
G 7 MALABAR VII
H Class: H 3 FLYING FISH
H 2 ADVENTURER
KETCH: H 7 ANGELICA
SLOOPS
J Class: J 1 KATOURA [#1050s]
L.0. Class: L.0. 1 GEORGIA
L.0. 4 GREY DAWN
L.0. 5 MIRAGE
L.0. 3 NIMBUS
M Class: M 5 CAROLINA [#721s]
M 3 CHIORA [#713s ex-IROQUOIS II]
M 38 DOLLY
M 4 IBIS [#715s ex-GRAYLING]
M 1 PRESTIGE [#1058s]
M 6 SPARTAN [#712s]
10 Meter Class: 10M 9 BLAZING STAR
10M 7 BRANTA
10M 4 CYTHERA
10M 11 DRAGON
10M 8 ESQUILA
10M 6 NARCISSUS
10M 14 NAUTILUS
10M 10 RAEBURN
10M 12 REDHEAD
10M 10 REVENGE
10M 13 SHAWARA
10M 3 SYNTHETIC
10M 1 TWILIGHT
10M 5 VALENCIA
N Class: N 2 ALICE
P Class: P 1 BUTTERFLY [#586s ex-NELLIE]
50 Class: N. Y. Y. C. 52 ANDIAMO [#716s ex-SAMURI]
40 Class: N. Y. Y. C. 42 COCKATOO [#775s ex-DOLLY BOWEN]
N. Y. Y. C. 50 MARILEE [#955s]
N. Y. Y. C. 46 MISTRAL [#774s]
N. Y. Y. C. 47 PAMPERO [#781s ex-PAMPARO]
N. Y. Y. C. 45 TYPHOON [#773s ex-MAISIE]
N. Y. Y. C. 49 ROWDY* [#776s]
30 Class: N. Y. 1 ALERA [#626s]
N. Y. 7 ALICE [#632s ex-TABASCO]
N. Y. 9 AMORITA [#635s ex-ADELAIDE II]
N. Y. 15 BANZAI [#640s]
N. Y. 4 INTERLUDE [#629s ex-MAID OF MEUDON]
N. Y. 5 LENA [#630s ex-PINTAIL]
N. Y. 11 ORIOLE [#637s]
N. Y. 13 PHANTOM [#648s ex-MINX]
N. Y. 17 PHRYNE (Rig changed to jib-headed mainsail.) [#643s]
Q Class: F. I. S. 3 CHANCE [#1059s]
F. I. S. 1 CYRILLA II [#1054s]
F. I. S. 2 JUDY [#1055s]
F. I. S. 4 MAMEENA [#1060s]
YAWLS M Class: N. Y. 51 REVERY [#720s ex-ACUSHLA]
M 1 RUGOSA II [#983s]
... August 1, 1827. [Compared to the equivalent list from 1924 the number of boats has increased from 49 to 73, while the number of Herreshoff-built yachts has shrunk from 37 to 32 or 44%.] [Incl envelope from Race Committee NYYC to NGH, labeled in red 'Rating & allowance' and postmarked August 4, 1927.]" (Source: NYYC. Correspondence (circular) to Members. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_73330. Measuring and Measurement Rules (Box 2), Folder B2F07, formerly MRDE15. 1927-08-01.)
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"[Item Description:] have ordered new mainsail for #721s CAROLINA and now have entire set of new sails, have done well in the races, agreed to race against #1058s PRESTIGE and #713s CHIORA ex-IROQUOIS but unfortunately hit a sunken wreck when towing and damaged lead keel, am interested in your opinion of #1050s KATOURA [owned by Robert E. Tod] and PRESTIGE, glad that your are helping Mr. Tod for I, too, feel sorry for him, CORSAIR will be at the races and I hope you will come and join her" (Source: Nichols, George. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_18790. Correspondence, Folder 51, formerly 54. 1927-08-27.)
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"[Item Description:] Bob [Emmons] death has shocked us all, do not plan to bring out #721s CAROLINA, would like to have competed against #1058s PRESTIGE, Gust Olsen now with #1050s KATOURA now BLACKSHEAR, #1078s THISTLE was to be launched tomorrow but launch was postponed 5 days, Harding has sold #713s CHIORA ex-IROQOUIS II to Mrs. Chandler Hovey, #698s QUEEN MAB ex-VAGRANT I set a standard to LYNX that she could not live up to" (Source: Nichols, George. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_06500. Correspondence, Folder 23, formerly 207. 1928-04-27.)
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"[Item Description:] Brokerage listing (File No. 21) for #713s MIDNIGHT SUN ex-CHIORA ex-IROQUOIS II. Dimensions, particulars (Rig: M-Class, Location: Lawley, Price: $14,000). With short description: 'Has oak frames and pine deck. Color is black, with green underbody, white waterline stripe, gold top stripe and hail. Was operated in 1931, 1934 and 1936, and carefully stored in a shed in 1932, 1933 and 1935. Her equipment includes a C02 Firessystem.'. With Edwin Levick photo as a marconi-rigged sloop with sail number NY-55. Undated, a penciled note in the upper right corner suggests 'Oct 37' (although this may also be a reference to the date she was sold)." (Source: Belknap & Paine, Yacht Brokers (creator). Broker Listing. MIT Museum, Hart Nautical Collections, Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection Item HH.6.111. Box HAFH.6.3B, Folder Brokers Listings. No date (1937-10 ?).)
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Further Reading
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Kleinhans, Lewis. "New York 40s and 50s." In: Schoettle, Edwin J. Sailing Craft. New York, 1928, p. 229-243. (3,032 kB)
Document is copyrighted: No known copyright restrictions. Class description and history. New York 50 sailing regulations. -
van der Linde, Claas. [Layered Comparison of Model and Plan to Demonstrate Shortening of New York 50 by Two Feet after the model had been made.] February 25, 2022. (747 kB)
Document is copyrighted: Yes, used with permission. Copyright holder: Claas van der Linde. Clinton Crane, in his 1952 'Yachting Memories' (p. 102) wrote 'In the New York Fifties [NGH] shortened the stern to bring them inside the amount which the new owners were willing to pay, so that they were never as good looking as they might have been.' This shortening by 24 inches can be seen by overlaying the construction plan with the model which then clearly shows the model's slender stern extending beyond the boat's plan profile. At HMCo vessel profiles for a plan were usually created by simply placing the model onto the plan and then tracing a pencil around the model's outline. It appears that the extended stern on this drawing was then simply erased --- hence the spot of lighter color at the transom. This is a layered document which allows clicking on and off overlaid transparent layers to reveal different parts of the image.
Images
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Further Image Information
Created by: Jackson, Willard B.
Image Caption: Chiora [ex-Iroquois II]
Negative Number: 4372
Image Date: 1929
Collection: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., acc. no. 19-014.
Image is copyrighted: No known U.S. copyright restrictions
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Stebbins, Nathaniel L. "Iroquois II [#713s.]" Photograph (cropped detail), negative no. 22142, 1913.
Further Image Information
Created by: Stebbins, Nathaniel L.
Image Caption: [#713s Iroquois II. #714s Pleione appears in the left background, #717s Barbara in the right foreground. Cropped detail of a photo. Photo taken on the day of the special race for NY50s (won by Iroquois) held by the Eastern Yacht Club on the occasion of the New York Yacht Club cruise stopover in Marblehead.]
Negative Number: 22142
Image Date: 1913-8-13
Published in: Garland, Joseph E. The Eastern Yacht Club. A History from 1870 to 1985. Marblehead, 1989, p. 130.
Collection: Historic New England (SPNEA) Collection, GUSN 282303. (Also in: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., acc. no. 07-001.)
Image is copyrighted: No known copyright restrictions
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Further Image Information
Created by: Stebbins, Nathaniel L.
Image Caption: "22150 Iroquois II" [Pleione #714s appears in the left background, Barbara #717s in the right foreground. Cropped detail of a photo. Photo taken on the day of the special race for NY50s (won by Iroquois) held by the Eastern Yacht Club on the occasion of the New York Yacht Club cruise stopover in Marblehead.]
Negative Number: 22150
Image Date: 1913-8-15
Collection: Historic New England (SPNEA) Collection, GUSN 282311. (Also in: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., acc. no. 07-008.)
Image is copyrighted: No known copyright restrictions
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Further Image Information
Created by: Stebbins, Nathaniel L.
Image Caption: "23288 Iroquois II." [Photo taken on the day of the NYYC's races for the King's Cup off Marblehead.]
Negative Number: 23288
Image Date: 1915-8-11
Collection: Historic New England (SPNEA) Collection, GUSN 282456. (Also in: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., acc. no. 07-028.)
Image is copyrighted: No known copyright restrictions
Registers
1914 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#1440)
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: Ralph Ellis; Port: New York
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-6; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-6
Sailmaker HMCo and R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]13 and [19]13
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
1915 List of Merchant Vessels of the U.S.
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: Ralph Ellis; Port: New York, N.Y.
Official no. 211139; Type & Rig Slp.
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; Reg. Length 57.0; Extr. Beam 14.5; Depth 9.2
Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
1917 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#1433)
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: Ralph Ellis; Port: New York
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-5; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-5
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]15
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
1920 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#1374)
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: Ralph Ellis; Port: Oyster Bay, L.I.; Port of Registry: New York
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-6; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-9
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]15
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
1923 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#1381)
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: Ralph Ellis; Port: Oyster Bay, L.I.
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-5; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-5
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]15
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
1925 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#1468)
Name: Iroquois II
Owner: H. Earle Kimball; Port: Providence, R.I.
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-6; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-6
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]15
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Bought by Charles L. Harding of Boston in early 1927 who renamed her Chiora and sold her to Mrs. Chandler Hovey in early 1928.
1928 List of Merchant Vessels of the U.S. (#832.14)
Name; Former Name(s): Chiora; Iroquois II
Owner: Chandler Hovery (92 Devonshire Street, Boston, Mass.); Port: Boston, Mass.
Official no. 211139; Type & Rig Slp.
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; Reg. Length 57.0; Extr. Beam 14.5; Depth 9.2
Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Note: Crew: 5
1930 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#847)
Name; Former Name(s): Chiora; Iroquois II
Owner: Frederick H. Prince; Port: Marblehead; Port of Registry: Boston, Mass.
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-5; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-5
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]15
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Note: Power inst. 1925, Rem. 1927
1935 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#3092)
Name; Former Name(s): Midnight Sun; Chiora, Iroquois II
Owner: Warner Eustis; Port: Marblehead; Port of Registry: Boston, Mass.
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Slp
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-5; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-5
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]29 - [19]30
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Engine Gas Eng. 4 Cyc. 4 Cyl. 3 3/4 x 5. 1931; Maker Scripps
Note: Power inst. 1925, Rem. 1927. Re-inst. 1931
1940 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#4000)
Name; Former Name(s): Midnight Sun; Chiora, Iroquois II
Owner: Warner Eustis; Port: Marblehead; Port of Registry: Boston, Mass.
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Aux. Ywl
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-6; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-6
Sails made in [19]40; Sail Area 2200
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Engine Gas Eng. 4 Cyc. 4 Cyl. 3 3/4 x 5. 1931; Maker Scripps
Note: Power inst. 1925, Rem. 1927. Re-inst. 1931
1942 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#3877)
Name; Former Name(s): Midnight Sun; Chiora, Iroquois II
Owner: A. A. Washton; Port: New London
Official no. 211139; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Aux. Ywl
Tons Gross 33; Tons Net 25; LOA 72-0; LWL 50-0; Extr. Beam 14-6; Depth 9-3; Draught 9-6
Sails made in [19]40; Sail Area 2200
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1913
Engine Gas Eng. 4 Cyc. 4 Cyl. 3 3/4 x 5. 1931; Maker Scripps
Note: Power inst. 1925, Rem. 1927. Re-inst. 1931
Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.
Supplement
From the 1920 and earlier HMCo Index Cards at the MIT Museum
- Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass.
From the 1931 HMCo-published Owner's List
Name: Iroquois II
Type: Cutter
Length: 50'
Owner: Ellis, R.
Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. "A Partial List of Herreshoff Clients." In: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. Herreshoff Yachts. Bristol, Rhode Island, ca. 1931.
From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
- Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff
Name: Iroquois II
Type: 50' sloop
Owner: Ralph Ellis
Year: 1913
Row No.: 306
Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.
From the 2000 (ca.) Transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Vermilya/Bray
Month: Sept
Day: 13
Year: 1912
E/P/S: S
No.: 0713
Name: Iriquois
LW: 50'
B: 14' 7"
D: 9' 9"
Rig: Cutter
K: y
Ballast: Lead O.
Amount: 14250.00 [sic, i.e. 14520]
Notes Constr. Record: Single head rig.
Notes Bray: Two names written in above "Iriquois" are not readible
Last Name: Ellis
First Name: R.
Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.
Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.
Research Note(s)
"Sail number NY 3." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. April 29, 2009.)
"Sail number 53 in 1916 with the numeral in black and the initials N.Y.Y.C. in a semi-circle half way around the numerals and above as per the New York Herald of May 17, 1916, p. 13." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. March 11, 2012.)
"Built in 127 days (contract to launch; equivalent to $114/day, 589 lbs displacement/day)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. January 16, 2024.)
"Sail area 3416 sqft from untitled two-page rating-rule-related table handwritten (in ink) by N. G. Herreshoff with multiple dimensions for the most important Herreshoff-designed yachts. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum. MRDE15, Folder [no #]. Undated (the most recent boat dates 1914/1915 and the table was probably prepared in preparation for NGH's sail area rating rule of 1914/1915)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. September 16, 2020.)
"Displacement 1169 cubic foot [= 74,816 lbs] from untitled two-page rating-rule-related table handwritten (in ink) by N. G. Herreshoff with multiple dimensions for the most important Herreshoff-designed yachts. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum. MRDE15, Folder [no #]. Undated (the most recent boat dates 1914/1915 and the table was probably prepared in preparation for NGH's sail area rating rule of 1914/1915)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. September 16, 2020.)
"Displacement is about 74,000 lb. of which about 35,500 lb. is the lead ballast." (Source: McClave, Ed. "The Restoration of the HMCo 'New York Fifty' Spartan." In: Herreshoff Marine Museum (Publisher). Proceedings. The Classic Yacht Symposium 2010. Bristol, R.I. 2010, p. 149-158.)
Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.
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