HMCo #665s Neith

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Particulars

Construction_Record_Title.jpgName: Neith
Later Name(s): Serena, Neith
Type: Cruising Sloop
Designed by: NGH
Contract: 1906-10-25
Launch: 1907-5-18
Construction: Wood
LOA: 52' 10" (16.10m)
LWL: 38' 7.5" (11.77m)
Beam: 10' 6.5" (3.21m)
Draft: 7' 6.5" (2.30m)
Rig: Sloop
Sail Area: 1,668sq ft (155.0sq m)
Displ.: 35,712 lbs (16,199 kg)
Keel: yes
Ballast: Lead outside
Built for: Hoe & Dunham, Richard M. & Edward K.
Amount: $9,000.00
Current owner: Private Owner, Mystic, CT (last reported 2019 at age 112)

See also:
#190615es [Dinghy for #665s Neith] (1906)
#190616es [Dinghy for #665s Neith] (1906)
#259p Neith Jr. (1907)

Note: Particulars are primarily but not exclusively from the HMCo Construction Record. Supplementary information not from the Construction Record appears elsewhere in this record with a complete citation.


Model

Model #116Model number: 116
Model location: H.M.M. Model Room South Wall Left

Vessels from this model:
1 built, modeled by NGH
#665s Neith (1907, Extant)

Original text on model:
"NEITH scale 3/4 Nov. 1906" (Source: Original handwritten annotation on model. Undated.)

Model Description:
"38'8" lwl Neith, cruising sloop of 1907." (Source: Bray, Maynard. 2004.)

Note: Vessels that appear in the records as not built, a cancelled contract, a study model, or as a model sailboat are listed but not counted in the list of vessels built from a model.


Offsets

Offset booklet number(s): HH.4.155

Offset booklet contents:
#665 [38' 8" w.l. sloop Neith].


Offset Booklet(s) in Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. (Restricted access --- see curator.)

Drawings

Main drawing Dwg 076-075 (HH.5.05529) Explore all drawings relating to this boat.

List of drawings:
   Drawings believed to have been first drawn for, or being first referenced to
   HMCo #665s Neith are listed in bold.
   Click on Dwg number for preview, on HH number to see at M.I.T. Museum.
  1. Dwg 059-008 (HH.5.04171); Malleable Iron Knees for Str. 142 (1887-03-12)
  2. Dwg 077-059 (HH.5.05662); Metal Fittings for No. 440 (1894-02-01)
  3. Dwg 078-011 (HH.5.05729): Boom Hanging for No. 450 and 451, 481, 510 (1895-02-12)
  4. Dwg 089-064 (HH.5.07087A): Skylight Lift for # 452 (1895-07-18)
  5. Dwg 084-009 (HH.5.06457); Booby Hatch for Steamer Florence (1900-01-22 ?)
  6. Dwg 068-037 (HH.5.04841); Stand for Steering Wheel and Compass # 546 (1900-09-07)
  7. Dwg 079-087 (HH.5.05896); Chainplates for # 560 to 567 (1901-09-18)
  8. Dwg 068-047 (HH.5.04852): Steering Quadrant and Pinion 1 5/8" Dia. Rudder Stock, Braces for # 617 etc. [Note - Changes for 616, 646 and 703 in Red Ink] (1902-02-20)
  9. Dwg 110-003 (HH.5.08968): Sheave on Boom-End for Clew-Outhaul (1902-06-18)
  10. Dwg 049-054 (HH.5.03730): Bilge Pump # 608 and 610 (1903-06-04)
  11. Dwg 093-049 (HH.5.07654); Cabin Table for Saloon 590 (Swinging) (1903-06-12)
  12. Dwg 074-042 (HH.5.05327): Special Tobin Bronze Blocks for Wire Rope (1904-01-11)
  13. Dwg 081-033 (HH.5.06121); Spars for # 617 (1904-02-22)
  14. Dwg 110-027 (HH.5.08992): Riggings Details (1904-02-26)
  15. Dwg 114-064 (HH.5.09563); Davits (1904-03-19)
  16. Dwg 074-043 (HH.5.05328); Bronze Turnbuckles (1904-04-12)
  17. Dwg 085-059 (HH.5.06644): Stanchions at Side Steps, Make 2 for Each Boat (1904-04-22)
  18. Dwg 110-037 (HH.5.09002): Traveler # 641, Runner Plates # 641 (1905-01-05)
  19. Dwg 093-051 (HH.5.07656): Table # 641 (1905-03-25)
  20. Dwg 085-061 (HH.5.06646): Stanchion Sockets for Gangway Stanchions # 634 and 641 (1905-05-10)
  21. Dwg 084-041 [141-001] (HH.5.06492): Skylights for Forecastle and Aft of Saloon (1906-10-08)
  22. Dwg 084-045 [141-008] (HH.5.06496): Saloon Skylight (1906-10-16)
  23. Dwg 064-078 (HH.5.04554): Rudder for # 663 and 664 (1906-10-18)
  24. Dwg 064-079 (HH.5.04555): Rudder and Steering Gear (1906-10-23)
  25. Dwg 024-041 (HH.5.01736); General Arrangement > Flush Deck Cruising Sloop Yacht, 52' O.A., 38 1/2' W.L., 10 1/2' Beam (1906-10-27)
  26. Dwg 130-098 (HH.5.10404); Sails > # 665 Neith (1906-11 ?)
  27. Dwg 024-042 (HH.5.01737): General Arrangement > Flush Deck Cruising Sloop Yacht 52' O.A., 38 1/2' W.L. 10 1/2' Beam (1906-11-07)
  28. Dwg 127-189 (HH.5.10057): Sails > Sails for # 665 (1906-11-16)
  29. Dwg 127-190 (HH.5.10058): Sails > Sails for No. 665 (1906-11-16)
  30. Dwg 025-040 (HH.5.01791): Construction List (1906-11-23)
  31. Dwg 141-044 (HH.5.11558); Bureau and Settee Berth (Port and Star.) (1906-11-30)
  32. Dwg 141-045 (HH.5.11559): Details of Galley (1906-12-11)
  33. Dwg 141-046 (HH.5.11560): Aft End of Cabin (1906-12-18)
  34. Dwg 076-075 (HH.5.05529): Construction Dwg > Cruising Sloop 52'10" O.A. 38'-7 1/2" W.L. 10'-6 1/2" Beam 7'-6 1/2" Draft (1906-12-31)
  35. Dwg 081-055 (HH.5.06143): Spars (1907-01-01)
  36. Dwg 141-047 (HH.5.11561); Fore and Aft Bh [Bulkhead] Sideboard and Bookcase Soft Wood - Mahogany Trimmings (1907-01-04)
  37. Dwg 110-085 (HH.5.09050): Bobstay Plate (1907-01-07)
  38. Dwg 092-069 (HH.5.07537): General Arrangement > Mahogany Side Steps (1907-01-08)
  39. Dwg 141-048 (HH.5.11562): Detail for Mirror Frames (1907-01-10)
  40. Dwg 141-049 (HH.5.11563): Companionway Hatch (1907-01-11)
  41. Dwg 084-046 [141-050] (HH.5.06497): Mahogany Hatch (Transferred From 141-50) (1907-01-12)
  42. Dwg 141-050 (N/A): Mahog. Hatch Changed to Dr 84-46 (1907-01-12 ?)
  43. Dwg 141-051 (HH.5.11564): Sec. of Berth Shelf in State Room (1907-01-12)
  44. Dwg 084-040 (HH.5.06491): Booby Hatch (1907-02-02)
  45. Dwg 076-075 (HH.5.05530); General Arrangement > Cruising Sloop # 665, 52'-10" O.A., 38'-7 1/2" W.L., 10'-6 1/2" Beam, 7'-6 1/2" Draft (1907-02-04)
  46. Dwg 091-116 (HH.5.07391): Block and Metal List for # 665 (1907-02-04)
  47. Dwg 081-067 (HH.5.06157): Hollow Spars for Neith # 665 (1909-02-28)
  48. Dwg 074-043 A (HH.5.05329); Bronze Turnbuckles (1927-03-07)
  49. Dwg 068-037 (HH.5.04843): Bowl for 5 1/4" Compass Steering Stand 68-37 (1928-02-24)
  50. Dwg 068-037 A (HH.5.04842): Stand for Steering Wheel and Compass (1934-03-07)
Source: Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Together with: Hasselbalch, Kurt with Frances Overcash and Angela Reddin. Guide to The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection. Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections, MIT Museum, Cambridge, Mass., 1997. Together with: Numerous additions and corrections by Claas van der Linde.
Note: The Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection is copyrighted by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass. Permission to incorporate information from it in the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné is gratefully acknowledged. The use of this information is permitted solely for research purposes. No part of it is to be published in any form whatsoever.

Documents

Nathanael G. Herreshoff

"No. 665 [#665s].
Nov[ember] 1906.
Cruising Flush deck Yacht.
Frame spaces 15".
Deduct for timbers 2" at head, increasing, moulded way, 3/32" per foot for full length.
Deduct for deck 1 3/8".
Crown of deck 5" in 10' 6"
Deduct for deck 1 3/8" [sic. Duplicate].
Sheer height is to top of deck.
Keel plank 4" thick, with 1 1/2" below rabbate.
Lead to begin midway between # 17 & # 18 frames, forward of that to be filled out with deadwood.
Top of lead:
On # 18 - 2.8.2 1/2
On # 20 - 2.7.5
On # 26 - 2.5.2 1/2
On # 28 - 2.4.5." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. [Penciled notes in Offset Booklet HH.4.155.] November 1906. Haffenreffer-Herreshoff Collection, MIT Museum, Cambridge, MA.)

"... Neith [Name], 665 [Building Number], 29.6 [Rating], 38.66 [Waterline], 32.9 [L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule], 10.1 [B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule], 7.5 [d = draft of water as for Universal Rule], 558 [D = displacement in cubic foot as for Universal Rule (= 35,712 lbs or 15.9 long tons)], 1668 [Sail Area], 1970 [Sail limit Present rule], -312 [sic] [Diff.], 1695 [Sail limit Proposed rule], -27 [Diff.], Ballast was added. [Notes] ..." (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

Other Contemporary Text Source(s)

"The Reigh [sic], a sloop yacht, built at the Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. for a Maine yachtsman, was launched from the north boat shop Saturday [May 18, 1907] afternoon. The craft is 45 feet over all, with a waterline of 38 feet. [No yacht named Reigh was ever launched at HMCo. The vessel referred to can only be Neith, the only yacht with a waterline of 38 feet that was launched in 1907.]" (Source: Anon. "Bristol and Vicinity." Bristol Phoenix, May 21, 1907, p. 2.)

"[License issued to vessel under 20 tons. Pos. 187:]
Neith, sloop yacht, of Bristol.
Built at Bristol, 1907.
13.24 tons; 40 ft. x 10.7 ft. x 8.2 ft. [Register length x breadth x depth.]
No specifications shown.
Lic[ensed] ([as] yacht) May 18, 1907. Owner: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company of Bristol. Master: N. G. Herreshoff, Bristol.
Surrendered [license] Aug. 12, 1907 at South West Harbor. ([Record at:] C[ustom] H[ouse, Providence])." (Source: Survey of Federal Archives, Work Projects Administration. Ships Documents of Rhode Island. Bristol. Ship Registers and Enrollments of the Port of Bristol - Warren Rhode Island, 1941, s.v. Neith.)

"[Neith won the special division of sailboats in the 1919 Block Island Race, ahead of two other boats.]" (Source: Anon. "Carolina Sails to Victory in Annual Block Island Yacht Race." New York Times, July 15, 1919, p. 20.)

"Another long voyage in a small yacht has started. The Herreshoff designed and built sloop Neith, with a water-line length of 39 feet and 53 feet over all, has been purchased from Dr. E. K. Dunham and R. M. Hoe by Lieutenant Commander Sidney Houghton of the British Navy. The new owner, along with his son, a twenty-one-year-old boy; and a Bahama negro left the Seawanhaka-Corinthian Yacht Club at Oyster Bay, L. I., last Thursday [September 2, 1920], and are proceeding directly to England. Commander Houghton expects to complete the trip in less than three weeks, with any sort of favorable conditions prevailing." (Source: Anon. "Yacht Starts Long Trip. Neith Leaves Oyster Bay for Three Weeks' Voyage to England." New York Times, September 4, 1920, p. 14.)

"On Sunday evening, about 6.45, Mr. S. C. Houghton, O.B.E., Commodore of the Crouch Yacht Club, sailed into the Crouch and dropped anchor above the Crouch club, thus bringing to a safe conclusion a very brave journey. His yawl Neith left America about three weeks ago and arrived at Plymouth late last week. All the crew were fit and well when she was sighted, bunting was displayed at the Royal Corinthian Yacht Club, then the Burnham Yacht Club, and finally the Crouch Yacht Club, and soon the guns of all three clubs were booming merrily. The latter club also hoisted the signal, 'Bravo,' whilst boats on the river displayed their bunting. Later he came ashore with the crew and was heartily cheered. He will be entertained to dinner at the Crouch Club on Saturday." (Source: Anon. "Atlantic Voyage." The Yachtsman, August 13, 1921, p. 231.)

"The race for smaller cruisers between 15 to 25 tons, although it only brought three entries, was especially interesting to anyone having some little acquaintance with the competing boats. Neith, the winner, a boat of only 19 tons, belongs to the Commodore of the Crouch Yacht Club, who sailed her over from America where she was built to the designs ob Herreshoff, the designer of the recent defenders of the American Cup. She established a very successful racing record in the season of 1922 --- 8 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 thirds out of 28 starts. Kelpie, which took second place, was built over 20 years ago." (Source: Anon. "Cowes Week Begins." The Yachtsman, August 9, 1924, p. 237.)

"The Herreshoff-designed and built 21-tons cutter Neith has been sold by Mr. S. C. Houghton to a well-known East Coast yachtsman." (Source: Anon. "Brevities." The Yachtsman, November 26, 1932, p. 177.)

"Mr. A. F. Challis has purchased the 21-ton cutter Neith. In 1921, sailed by Commander Sidney C. Houghton, Neith crossed the Atlantic from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Burnham-on-Crouch." (Source: Anon. "New Owner for the Cutter Neith." The Yachtsman, January 21, 1933, p. 339.)

"In contradiction of previous rumours, Neith, 21 tons, recently purchased by Mr. A. F. Challis, late Vice-Commodore Crouch Y.C., will not be rigged as an hermaphrodite brig, but is being converted to a taffrail cutter with a new main­ sail made by Cranfield, of Burnham-on-Crouch. She is being fitted with a 7-9 h.p. engine, installed by Leslie and Harris, with a Brunton feathering propeller so as not to impair her sailing qualities." (Source: Anon. "Neith." The Yachtsman, March 4, 1933, p. 459.)

"... Neith is a famous vessel under a new owner, Major Henderson; she rates rather heavily, ..." (Source: Anon. "Morgan Cup Entries." The Yachtsman, July 11, 1936, p. 309.)

"... Neith ... has yet to get among the money. Her rating is fairly large for her size, but in light winds with plenty of reaching, specially as we seem to have a lot of strong-weather people about, she may come more to the fore. Anyway, it is fine to see a gaff mainsail that is a sail, and damnation to the time allowance. ..." (Source: Anon. "Large Class Chances." The Yachtsman, July 25, 1936, p. 349.)

"... Turning to the open class we have a highly interesting job before us. The list to date comprises Macnab, Latifa, Maid of Malham, Ilex, Zeearend, Ortac, Firebird, Trenchemer, Bloodhound, Aile Noire, Phyrene, Stiane, Aralus, Pam, Neith, Roland von Bremen, Hamburg, Arkton, Senta, Peter von Danzig, Elizabeth McCaw; 22 boats and four out of every five with legitimate claims to being numbered among the crack boats. ..
Neith, in spite of a reduction of canvas this year still carries a biggish area, in her gaff rig, for her 38-ft. odd water line, and together with a narrow beam this inevitably results in a fairly high rating; over 51-ft., or about the same as that of Aralus who is 10-ft. longer, and although she is a very able craft and sure to be pushed along hard by Major Henderson, she is not among the fancied. ...[Neith took 13th of 26 participants in the (10th) Fastnet Race of 1937.]" (Source: Anon. "Ocean Racing: The Fastnet, 1937." The Yachtsman, August 1937, p. 156.)

Other Modern Text Source(s)

"53' Herreshoff cutter (NEITH) (1907), double-planked mahogany/oak, bronze fastenings 120,000." (Source: William Cannell Brokerage. [Classified Ad.] Wooden Boat #47, July / August 1982, p. 145.)

"NEITH, the 52' Herreshoff cutter built in 1907, came to the show, her meticulous restoration almost complete. Owned by Jack E. Brown of Midland, Texas, NEITH has been undergoing restoration in Stonington, Connecticut, under the direction of Jack's son, Van. The crew, consisting of Rick Waters, Ed McClave, Ben Philbrick, Paul Bates, Dan Calohan, and Bill Taylor, has done a stunning job. It was easy to see why Maynard Bray says that being bought by the Browns is one of the best things that could happen to a classic worth saving." (Source: Anon. "On The Waterfront." Wooden Boat #61, November / December 1984, p. 20.)

Archival Documents

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"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph sections titled '#665 [NEITH] - (Inside lines)'. With calculations showing displacement as 'Approx. 630 cuft' [= 40320lbs]. Undated, probably November 1906 just after NGH had carved the model for NEITH." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0391. WRDT04, Folder 34, formerly MRDE08. No date (1906-11 ?).)


"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph hull sections on gothic font 'Herreshoff Manufacturing Company, Bristol, R.I.' stationery titled '#665 [NEITH]. Cruising flushdeck sloop. 38ft 8in w.l. From finished model. Sc[ale] 3/4[in]. Nov[ember] 4 1906'. With calculations arriving at a total displacement of 558cuft = 35750lbs and a wetted surface of 476sqft. On verso another set of penciled pantograph hull sections, crossed out, titled '#665/ 38ft 8in w.l. Cruising sloop. Scale 3/4in. From finished model' with note 'Model changed after this. See other side' and with calculations arriving at a total displacement of 621[cuft = 39744lbs] and a wetted surface of 489sqft." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Hull Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_01630. Folder [no #]. 1906-11-04.)


"[Item Description:] Penciled pantograph lead sections titled 'Lead keel. #665 [NEITH]. Scale 1/8. Nov[ember] 10, 1906'. With calculations and note 'No. 665. Required 18000lbs with c.g. at .582 of w.l.'." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Pantograph Lead Sections. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE04_07990. Folder [no #]. 1906-11-10.)


"[Item Description:] Four handwritten (in ink) pages with tabulated data listing 'Shop No', 'Name', '[Tons] Gross' and '[Tons] Net' for a total of 100 HMCo-built boats and classes. Tonnage data is usually precise to two digits behind the decimal. Random comparisons suggest source of tonnage data to be official Custom House data. Boats mentioned are: #664s, #663s, #625s, #665s, #634s, #658s, #657s, #646s, #641s, #617s, #626s Class, #624s, #621s, #616s, #619s, #590s, #591s, #586s, #592 Class, #618s, #605s, #578s, #560s Class, #580s, #553s, #551s, #552s, #546s, #541s, #545s, #538s, #534s, #533s, #532s, #529s, #534s, #530s, #531s, #435s, #437s, #452s, #499s, #429s, #426s, #424s, #481s, #422s, #417s, #414s, #451s, #215p, #213p, #222p, #235p, #230p, #229p, #236p, #224p, #244p, #247p, #249p, #231p, #232p, #228p, #252p, #250p, #251p, #248p, #168p, #164p, #118p, #142p, #174p, #173p, #194p, #189p, #193p, #183p, #178p, #179p, #181p, #182p, #175p, #163p, #148p, #149p, #172p, #155p, #170p, #186p, #188p, #206p, #207p, #205p, #208p, #209p, #210p, #211p, #212p, #216p. Undated (the latest boat listed, WINSOME, was launched in 1907)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (?) (creator). Handwritten List. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00220. Folder [no #]. No date (1907 or later).)


"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink and) table / design rule titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080. Folder [no #]. 1907-07-13.)


"[Item Description:] Handwritten (in ink) rating rule titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Handwritten Rating Rule. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00260. Folder [no #]. 1907-07-16.)


"[Item Description:] Blueprint table titled 'Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule' and signed 'Nath'l G. Herreshoff. Bristol R.I. July 16, 1907'. With formula 'Sailarea not more than C * B * (L * d * D)^.025 in which C = constant depending on rig, as follows: Sloops & Yawls not carrying topsails C=8.75. Full rigged Sloops C=9.8. Full rigged Schooners and Yawls C=9.3. L = length at 1/4 beam as for Universal Rule. B = breadth of waterline as for Universal Rule. d = draft of water as for Universal Rule. D = displacement as for Universal Rule. The following are examples of application of the above formula to some well known yachts designed by the author. Measurements for Universal Rule'. Followed by tabulated data showing Building Number, Rating, Waterline, L, B, d, D, S, Sail limit Present rule, Diff., Sail limit Proposed rule, Diff., and Notes for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s class], KILDEE [#460s], SIS [#536s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], SENECA [#670s], N.Y.Y.C. 30 [#626s class], NEWPORT 30 [#463s class], ELECTRA [#530s], SPASM [#538s], PLEASURE [#545s], NEITH [#665s], DELIGHT [#679s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s class], IROLITA II [#658s], YANKEE [#534s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RELIANCE [#605s], PETREL [#510s], QUEEN [#657s], INGOMAR [#590s], WESTWARD [#692s], AND [KATOURA] [#722s]. [In an article in the March 5, 1905 Boston Globe (p40), N. G. Herreshoff argued that unless there be a stricter limit on sail area in the present Universal Rule, there would be only few cruising yachts racing. This formula is apparently an attempt to address the above issue. See elsewhere for complete spreadsheet transcription.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Blueprint Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0169. WRDT08, Folder 16, formerly MRDE06. 1907-07-16.)


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"[Item Description:] Penciled table listing OA, LWL, QBL, %, L = LWL + 1/2(QBL-.93LWL), and Mian[?] for Buzzards Bay 15 [#503s], KILDEE [#460s], DELIGHT [#679s], NYYC 30 [#626s], SENECA [#670s], SPASAM [#538s], NEITH [#665s], GLORIANA [#411s], ALTAIR [#539s], AVENGER [#666s], DORIS [#625s], WINSOME [#664s] class, MINEOLA [#529s] class, INGOMAR [#590s] and QUEEN [#657s]. With three formulas for L, one by 'NGH proposed', the other by Louis M. Clark and the third by NGH [apparently the old one]. On verso of printed receipt card by Callender, McAuslan & Troup Co. Undated, the latest of these boats is from 1908 suggesting this to have been prepared for the Universal Rule revision of 1908." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Calculations. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_01780. Folder [no #]. No date (1908).)


"[Item Description:] Penciled table titled '38ft Class (N)' listing Universal Rule-related dimensions 'O.a., w.l., q.b.l., Beam, B, d, cube-rt(D), D, sq-rt(S), S, Rating, sq-rt(D)/wl and Dollar Prices' for DORELLO [George Owen design], COCK ROBIN [#617s], NEITH [#665s] and COUNTESS (SPASM) [#538s] as well as for another six unnamed designs of between 38ft and 40ft LWL. Undated, NEITH, the newest of the listed boats, was built 1906/1907." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Penciled Table. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE03_02030. Folder [no #]. No date (1907 or later).)


"[Item Transcription:] Order book with carbon copy duplicates of instructions given by NGH titled 'Herreshoff Mfg. Co. Orders from N.G. Herreshoff'. Relevant contents:
§72: Work Order [For] #665s. [When wanted] Last of April. Rigging [3 pages] (1906-11-18 to 1906-11-20)
§75: Work Order [For] #665s. [When wanted] Last of April. Blocks [2 pages] (1906-11-21)." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Order Book. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE08_03460. Folder [no #]. 1900-02 to 1909-10.)




"[Item Description:] HH.5.00327 (005-099). Blueprint general arrangement plan with interior arrangement plans and outboard profile titled 'Cruising Yacht. 80ft-6in x 70ft-6in x 17ft-8in x 4ft-9in. Scale 1/4in = 1ft. Oct[ober] 17, 1910'. With penciled note 'Design made for Dr. Dunham [co-owner of #665s NEITH]'. See also 2004.0001.0146 for a further evolution of this design." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0147. WRDT08, Folder 13, formerly MRDE02. 1910-10-17.)


"[Item Description:] HMCo Plan HH.5.00330.1 (005-102). Blueprint deckplan, general arrangement plans and profile titled '80ft 6in x 70ft 6in x 17ft 8in x 4ft 9in. Cruising Yacht'. Compare wih 2004.0001.0147 which shows this plan to have been prepaped for Edward K. Dunham (co-owner of #665s NEITH)]." (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (creator). Blueprint. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Acc. 2004.0001.0146. WRDT08, Folder 13, formerly MRDE02. 1910-11-12.)


"[Item Description:] Ledger of HMCo actual costs vs contract price for #617s COCK ROBIN, #621s MARGARET, #665s NEITH, #685s ADVENTURESS, #711s Class NY50 footers, 25% shop overhead, 15% profit" (Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Co. (?) (creator). Cost Accounting. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_58550. Subject Files, Folder 83, formerly 134. No date (ca1913 ?).)


"[Item Description:] damages and repairs on #665s NEITH, didn't use her much this summer, damage due to incompetent crew, acct of son Edwin cruise in NEITH to Marblehead, 'I am ever so much obliged to you for the trouble you have taken in the matter and you can imagine that after my very particular care of all the boats I have owned I was very much mortified and disgruntled to learn of the boat being returned in poor condition', together with scribbled note 'Nat, this explains itself. Stoddard is the owner ... Yrs, E. D. Morgan. Please return this copy as it is the only one I have.' [the note suggests that E. D. Morgan chartered #665s NEITH which in 1919 was owned by B. R. Stoddard]" (Source: Morgan, E.D. Letter to N.G. Herreshoff. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_38730. Correspondence, Folder 77, formerly 62. 1919-10-20.)


"[Item Description:] Report about #665s NEITH's abandoned ocean crossing to England; 'she was a wonder ship'" (Source: Houghton, Sidney. Letter to Paul Hammond. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MR_06830. Correspondence, Folder 24, formerly 208. 1920-10-02.)


"[Item Description:] Penciled table showing LOA, LWL, Beam, Draft, QBL, Stem, [symbol], sft[?] and Displ[acement] for KATOURA [#722s], WESTWARD [#692s], VAGRANT, QUEEN MAB [#698s], CONSTITUTION [#551s], RESOLUTE [#725s], WINSOME [#664s], 2nd IROLITA [#658s], DORIS [#625s], AVENGER [#666s], 50 Footers [#711s], ADVENTURESS [#685s], IROLITA [#591s], FLYING CLOUD [#703s], BELISARIUS [#1266s], NEITH [#665s], AZOR [#578s], NAULAKHA [#687s], SENECA [#670s], NY30s [#626s], SENTA [#688s], DOROTHY Q [#668s], FLIGHT [#607s], PLEASURE [#907s], QUAKERESS [#676s], KILDEE [#460s], and the 12 1/2ft Class [#744s]. With formulas for mean length L, Draft limit by rule and freeboard at three positions. Undated, on verso of NYYC invitation dated December 11, 1933 but listing of BELISARIUS which was built in 1934/1935 indicates that this was written at that time or later. Filed close to and possibly related to what appears to be an early version of NGH's 'Observations on the Proportions of Sailing Yachts' from July 1936." (Source: Herreshoff, N.G. (creator). Tabulated Dimensions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE02_03040. Folder [no #]. No date (1936-07 ?).)


Note: This list of archival documents contains in an unedited form any and all which mention #665s Neith even if just in a cursory way. Permission to digitize, transcribe and display is gratefully acknowledged.

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1912 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#2172)
Name: Neith
Owner: Dr. Edward K. Dunham, Richard M. Hoe; Port: Seal Harbor; Port of Registry: S. W. Harbor, Me.
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Cut[ter]
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; LOA 52-10; LWL 38-6; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-3; Draught 7-6
Sailmaker HMCo.; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 1600
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1914 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#2207)
Name: Neith
Owner: Dr. Edward K. Dunham, Richard M. Hoe; Port: Seal Harbor; Port of Registry: South West Harbor, Me.
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Cut[ter]
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; LOA 52-10; LWL 38-6; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-3; Draught 7-6
Sailmaker HMCo; Sails made in [19]07; Sail Area 1600
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1917 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#2238)
Name: Neith
Owner: Dr. Edward K. Dunham, Richard M. Hoe; Port: Seal Harbor; Port of Registry: South West Harbor, Me.
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Cut[ter]
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; LOA 52-10; LWL 38-5; Extr. Beam 10-5; Depth 8-3; Draught 7-5
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]17; Sail Area 1600
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1920 Lloyd's Register of American Yachts (#2110)
Name: Neith
Owner: B. R. Stoddard; Port: New Rochelle, N.Y.; Port of Registry: New York
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig K[eel], FD [Flush Deck], Cut[ter]
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; LOA 52-10; LWL 38-6; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-3; Draught 7-6
Sailmaker R&L [Ratsey&Lapthorn New York]; Sails made in [19]19; Sail Area 1600
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N. G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1907

1923 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#3584)
Name: Neith
Owner: Sidney C. Houghton (5 Duke Street, Marylebone, London, N.W.1.); Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Cutter
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908

1932 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4181)
Name: Neith
Owner: Sidney C. Houghton (129 Wigmore Street, London, W.1.); Club(s): Bnm. Cch. Cor. Lon. Tem. Tms.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Cutter
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Note: Sail no. 13 [from sail number section].
Owner's name Sidney C. Houghton crossed out in pencil in researcher's copy.

1933 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4175)
Name: Neith
Owner: A. F. Challis (122 Old Broad Street, London, E.C.2.); Club(s): Bnm. Cch.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: Sail no. 13 [from sail number section].

1935 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4250)
Name: Neith
Owner: A. F. Challis (123 Queen's Court, Queen's Road, London, W.2.); Club(s): Bnm. Cch. Nrw.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30

1936 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4363)
Name: Neith
Owner: Maj. G. Henderson (Hamble Lodge, Sarisbury Green, Hants.); Club(s): C.A. Crz. Hbl. Ocn.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30

1939 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4967)
Name: Neith
Owner: Maj. G. Henderson (Army & Navy Club, Pall Mall, London, S.W.1.); Club(s): C.A. Crz. Hbl. Ocn.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]29
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section].

1946 Supplement to 1939 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4967)
Name: Neith
Note: Sig. ltrs. MMLN. AuxB[er]m[udian]Cut[ter]. Delete R.O.R.C. Rating.

1947 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4815)
Name: Neith
Owner: Maj. G. Henderson (Furzelaw, Hill Head, nr. Fareham, Hants); Club(s): C.A. Crz. Hbl. Ocn.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Slp
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Lucas; Sails made in [19]46
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section].

1949 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4727)
Name: Neith
Owner: Maj. G. Henderson (Furzelaw, Hill Head, nr. Fareham, Hants); Club(s): C.A. Crz. Hbl. Lee. Ocn.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Slp
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Lucas; Sails made in [19]46
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: R.O.R.C. Rating 40.872ft. Sail no. 123 [from sail number section].

1950 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4619)
Name: Neith
Owner: The Exors. of the late Maj. G. Henderson; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Slp
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Lucas; Sails made in [19]46
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: R.O.R.C. Rating 40.872ft. Sail no. 123 [from sail number section].

1951 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#4985)
Name: Neith
Owner: Richard A. Harman (Northaw 2, Wych Hill Lane, Woking, Surrey); Club(s): Crz. Ems.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Cut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Lucas; Sails made in [19]46
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy 3 1/2" - 4 1/2"; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section]. Alterations and Additions to 28th April, 1951: Neith Owner Wm. Mackinlay, Thorncliffe, Victoria Circus, Glasgow, W.2.

1952 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#5126)
Name: Neith
Owner: W. M. Mackinlay (Thorncliffe, Victoria Circus, Glasgow, W.2.); Club(s): C.Cor. C.Crz. Cly. Hgh. Nor. Nsk. Tms. Wst. Y.A.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Cut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Lucas; Sails made in [19]46
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 2Cy 3 1/2" - 4 1/2"; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: R.O.R.C. Rating 35.83ft

1955 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#5338)
Name: Neith
Owner: W. M. Mackinlay (Thorncliffe, Victoria Circus, Glasgow, W.2.); Club(s): C.Cor. C.Crz. Cly. Hgh. Nor. Nsk. Tms. Wst. Y.A.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxB[er]m[udian]Cut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 14.46; LOA 53-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]52
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Motor
Note: R.O.R.C. Rating 35.83ft. TCF 7985. Sail no. 123 [from sail number section].

1960 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#5417)
Name: Neith
Owner: W. M. Mackinlay (Thorncliffe, Victoria Circus, Glasgow, W.2.); Club(s): C.Cor. C.Crz. Cly. Hgh. Nor. Nsk. Tms. Wst. Y.A.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 13.36; LOA 53-0; LWL 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]52
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Builders; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor. 4Cy 3 3/16" - 4 3/8"; Maker Thornycroft, [19]30
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section]. Alterations and Additions to 21st March, 1960: Owners Kintyre (Private), Ltd. Petrol Motor 4Cy. 15BHP, Ford.

1961 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#5590)
Name: Neith
Owner: Kintyre (Private) Ltd. No address known.; Port: London
Official no. 146618; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 13.36; LOA 53-0; LWL 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey; Sails made in [19]52
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor 4Cy. 15BHP; Maker Bergius [19]50
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section]

1965 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#6541)
Name: Neith
Owner: Kintyre (Private) Ltd. P.O. Box (Salisbury, S. Rhodesia); Port: London
Official no. 146618; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 13.36; LOA 53-0; LWL 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey & Mackenzie; Sails made in [19]52, [19]64 & [19]61
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor 2Cy. 8BHP; Maker Bergius [19]62
Note: Sail no. 123 [from sail number section]

1966 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#6800)
Name: Neith
Owner: Willmead Finance Co. (Regency House, St. Helier, Jersey, C.I.); Port: London
Official no. 146618; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 13.36; LOA 53-0; LWL 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey & Mackenzie; Sails made in [19]52, [19]64 & [19]61
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor 2Cy. 8BHP; Maker Bergius [19]62

1970 Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K. (#7629)
Name: Neith
Owner: Willmead Finance Co. (Regency House, St. Helier, Jersey, C.I.); Port: London
Official no. 146618; Type & Rig AuxCut
Tons Gross 16.49; Tons Net 13.36; LOA 53-0; LWL 45-8; Extr. Beam 10-6; Depth 8-2
Sailmaker Ratsey & Mackenzie; Sails made in [19]52, [19]64 & [19]61
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Built where Bristol, R.I.; Built when 1908
Engine Petrol Motor 2Cy. 8BHP; Maker Bergius [19]62
No further listings in Lloyd's Register of Yachts U.K.

1998 Stars Register of Yachts (#622.8)
Name: Neith
Owner: Jack E. Brown; Port: Mystic, CT
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood; Type & Rig Sail
LWL 40-0; Extr. Beam 10-6
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Built where Bristol RI; Built when 1907

1999-2000 Register of Wooden Boats (#334.10)
Name; Former Name(s): Neith; Serena
Owner: Jack E. Brown (P.O. Box 13, West Mystic, CT 06388); Club(s): New York YC; Port: Mystic, CT
Official no. 204010; Type & Rig Auxiliary sail, Keel cutter
Lbs Gross 41000; LOA 53-3; LWL 40-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Draught 7-9
Sail Area 1400
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N.G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol RI; Built when 1907
Engine (1) Diesel, 50-hp
Note: Sail No. 123

2007 WoodenBoat Register
Name; Former Name(s): Neith; Serena
Owner: Jack E. Brown; Port: Mystic, CT ; Port of Registry: West Mystic, CT
Official no. 204010; Type & Rig Auxiliary sail, Keel cutter
Lbs Gross 41000; LOA 53-0; LWL 40-0; Extr. Beam 10-6; Draught 7-9
Sail Area 1400
Builder Herreshoff Mfg. Co.; Designer N.G. Herreshoff; Built where Bristol RI; Built when 1907
Engine Diesel, (1) 50-hp
Note: Sail No. 123

2010 USCG
Name: Neith
Owner: Neith LLC (925 River Road, Mystic, CT 06355, Van M. Brown, Manager); Port: Mystic Ct
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; Reg. Length 40; Extr. Beam 10.5; Depth 8.2
Builder Herreshoff Mfg Co; Built when 1907
Note: Call Sign: WCX7578. Documentation Issuance Date: January 19,2010. Documentation Expiration Date: February 28, 2011. Service: Recreational.

2015 USCG
Name: Neith
Owner: Neith LLC (925 River Road, Mystic, CT 06355, Van M. Brown, Manager); Port: Mystic Ct
Official no. 204010; Building Material Wood
Tons Gross 21; Tons Net 13; Reg. Length 40; Extr. Beam 10.5; Depth 8.2
Builder Herreshoff Mfg Co; Built when 1907
Note: Call Sign: WCX7578. Documentation Issuance Date: January 17, 2015. Documentation Expiration Date: February 28, 2016. Service: Recreational.

Source: Various Yacht Lists and Registers. For complete biographical information see the Herreshoff Catalogue Raisonné under Data Sources. Note that this section shows only snapshots in time and should not be considered a provenance, although it can help creating one.

Supplement

From the 1920 and earlier HMCo Index Cards at the MIT Museum
  • Note: The vessel index cards comprise two sets of a total of some 3200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and information regarding drawings, later or former vessel names, and owners. They were compiled from HMCo's early days until 1920 and added to in later decades, apparently by Hart Nautical curator William A. Baker and his successors. While HMCo seems to have used only one set of index cards, all sorted by name and, where no name was available, by number, later users at MIT apparently divided them into two sets of cards, one sorted by vessel name, the other by vessel number and greatly expanded the number of cards. Original HMCo cards are usually lined and almost always punched with a hole at bottom center while later cards usually have no hole, are unlined, and often carry substantially less information. All cards are held by the Francis Russell Hart Nautical Collections of the MIT Museum in Cambridge, Mass.
From the 1931 HMCo-published Owner's List

Name: Neith
Type: J & M
Length: 38'7 1/2"
Owner: Hoe & Dunham

Source: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. "A Partial List of Herreshoff Clients." In: Herreshoff Manufacturing Company. Herreshoff Yachts. Bristol, Rhode Island, ca. 1931.

From the 1930s L. Francis Herreshoff Index Cards at the Herreshoff Marine Museum
  • Note: The L. Francis Herreshoff index cards comprise a set of some 1200 cards about vessels built by HMCo, with dimensions and / or ownership information. Apparently compiled in the early 1930s, for later HMCo-built boats like the Fishers Island 23s or the Northeast Harbor 30s are not included. Added to in later decades, apparently by L. F. Herreshoff as well as his long-time secretary Muriel Vaughn and others. Also 46 cards of L. F. Herreshoff-designed vessels. The original set of index cards is held by the Herreshoff Marine Museum and permission to display is gratefully acknowledged.
From the 1953 HMCo Owner's List by L. Francis Herreshoff

Name: Neith
Type: 38' 6" cutter
Owner: Dr. E. K. Dunham
Year: 1907
Row No.: 468

Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. "Partial List of Herreshoff-Built Boats." In: Herreshoff, L. Francis. Capt. Nat Herreshoff. The Wizard of Bristol. New York, 1953, p. 325-343.

From the 2000 (ca.) Transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Vermilya/Bray

Month: Oct
Day: 25
Year: 1906
E/P/S: S
No.: 0665
Name: Neith
LW: 38' 7.5"
B: 10' 6.5"
D: 7' 6.5"
Rig: J & M
K: y
Ballast: O. Lead
Amount: 9000.00
Last Name: Hoe & Dunham

Source: Vermilya, Peter and Maynard Bray. "Transcription of the HMCo. Construction Record." Unpublished database, ca. 2000.

Note: The transcription of the HMCo Construction Record by Peter Vermilya and Maynard Bray was performed independently (and earlier) than that by Claas van der Linde. A comparison of the two transcriptions can be particularly useful in those many cases where the handwriting in the Construction Record is difficult to decipher.

Research Note(s)

"Cruising sloop #665, 52'-10" O.A. x 38'-7 1/2" W.L. x 10'-6 1/2" beam x 7'-6 1/2" Draft. Frame spaces 15". Planking 1 3/8" yellow pine, single below turn of bilge. Deck beams white oak. Deck white pine. Rail teak [as per notes on drawing 76-75]." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. May 2, 2008.)

"Built in 205 days (contract to launch; equivalent to $44/day, 174 lbs displacement/day)." (Source: van der Linde, Claas. January 16, 2024.)

"[Sail area info.]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

"[Displacement (558 cubic feet = 35,712lbs).]" (Source: Herreshoff, N. G. "Formula for Obtaining the Limit of Sail-Area in Yachts when Measured by the Universal Rule Formula." Bristol, R.I., July 13, 1907 with later additions. Original handwritten (in ink) document with penciled additions. Halsey C. Herreshoff Collection at the Herreshoff Marine Museum Item MRDE06_00080.)

Note: Research notes contain information about a vessel that is often random and unedited but has been deemed useful for future research.

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